Question:
I’ve been looking for a big amp lately and I had a chance to play my first marshall(JCM 2000). I was blown away. I know what kind of head I’m getting, the 100W Dual super lead, but I’m not sure what kind of cabinet to get. It’s probably going to be a marshall cabinet, but I’m not sure which one I should get. I play heavy metal. I’m looking for the heaviest, meanest sounds I can get(think Metallica or slayer). Just to give you an example of how little I know about cabinets, I thought the cabinet I was playing through in the store was supposed to be vintage because it said 1960 on it. The guy told me that’s what they all are though. I’ve seen some that say 1960A and some are B’s. I’ve heard that it matters whether the speakers are front or rear loaded. And something about the cabinet being open or closed back. Which kind of cabinet should I be looking at? Thanks! -G
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’ve been looking for a big amp lately and I had a chance to play my >first marshall(JCM 2000). I was blown away. I know what kind of head I’m >getting, the 100W Dual super lead, but I’m not sure what kind of cabinet >to get. It’s probably going to be a marshall cabinet, but I’m not sure >which one I should get. I play heavy metal. I’m looking for the >heaviest, meanest sounds I can get(think Metallica or slayer). Just to >give you an example of how little I know about cabinets, I thought the >cabinet I was playing through in the store was supposed to be vintage >because it said 1960 on it. The guy told me that’s what they all are >though. I’ve seen some that say 1960A and some are B’s. I’ve heard that >it matters whether the speakers are front or rear loaded. And something >about the cabinet being open or closed back. Which kind of cabinet >should I be looking at? Thanks! >-G
You couldn’t go too wrong with any closed-back 4 x 12 cabinet loaded with Celestions, either the standard new 75-watters (type G12T-75) or the original 70 watters aka Modern Leads (type G12M-70). I don’t think front vs. rear loading will make that much difference. The Marshall 1960A has the four 75-watt Celestions: the 1960 is the general model and the "A" means it’s the angled-front style. The 1960B is the same thing in a straight-front version. You could save some bucks by going with a non-Marshall cabinet, which also gives you the option of getting something with a metal grille, to repel attacks from stumbling feet, flying furniture and other general mayhem. Chris
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> You couldn’t go too wrong with any closed-back 4 x 12 cabinet loaded with > Celestions, either the standard new 75-watters (type G12T-75) or the > original 70 watters aka Modern Leads (type G12M-70). I don’t think front > vs. rear loading will make that much difference. The Marshall 1960A has the > four 75-watt Celestions: the 1960 is the general model and the "A" means > it’s the angled-front style. The 1960B is the same thing in a straight-front > version. You could save some bucks by going with a non-Marshall cabinet, > which also gives you the option of getting something with a metal grille, to > repel attacks from stumbling feet, flying furniture and other general > mayhem.
Just checked Celestion spec-sheets, and believe it or not the G12M-70, & Modern Lead 70 are two different speakers albeit *VERY* similar. Only mechanical difference appears to be 145mm diameter magnet and 7mm gap depth for the Modern Lead as opposed to 140mm diameter magnet for the G12M-70 and a 8mm gap depth. The weight of both magnets is identical however, as are all of the other listed specs. The frequency/resonance graphs have identical nooks and crannies, but the modern lead shows a bit less emphasis on the highs. It would appear as though Celestion were trying to create a second version of the G12M-70 minus some of the ice-pick at the top. A kinder, friendlier G12M-70 if you will. Their product line is rather confusing. -Danny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You couldn’t go too wrong with any closed-back 4 x 12 cabinet loaded with > Celestions, either the standard new 75-watters (type G12T-75) or the > original 70 watters aka Modern Leads (type G12M-70). I don’t think front > vs. rear loading will make that much difference. The Marshall 1960A has the > four 75-watt Celestions: the 1960 is the general model and the "A" means > it’s the angled-front style. The 1960B is the same thing in a straight-front > version. You could save some bucks by going with a non-Marshall cabinet, > which also gives you the option of getting something with a metal grille, to > repel attacks from stumbling feet, flying furniture and other general > mayhem. >Just checked Celestion spec-sheets, and believe it or not the G12M-70, & >Modern Lead 70 are two different speakers albeit *VERY* similar. Only >mechanical difference appears to be 145mm diameter magnet and 7mm gap >depth for the Modern Lead as opposed to 140mm diameter magnet for the >G12M-70 and a 8mm gap depth. The weight of both magnets is identical >however, as are all of the other listed specs. The frequency/resonance >graphs have identical nooks and crannies, but the modern lead shows a >bit less emphasis on the highs. It would appear as though Celestion >were trying to create a second version of the G12M-70 minus some of the >ice-pick at the top. A kinder, friendlier G12M-70 if you will. Their >product line is rather confusing. -Danny
Those sneaky guys! Chris
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On a related note, I’ve been wondering if the "Silver Series" Celestion 80 watter is the same or different than the G12-80 that Celestion was previously advertising as the "American Sound" speaker. Fender was originally using the G12-80 in the Tone Master 2-12 cab, I think they’re using Vintage 30’s in there now. A.T. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> You couldn’t go too wrong with any closed-back 4 x 12 cabinet loaded with >> Celestions, either the standard new 75-watters (type G12T-75) or the >> original 70 watters aka Modern Leads (type G12M-70). I don’t think front >> vs. rear loading will make that much difference. The Marshall 1960A has > the >> four 75-watt Celestions: the 1960 is the general model and the "A" means >> it’s the angled-front style. The 1960B is the same thing in a > straight-front >> version. You could save some bucks by going with a non-Marshall cabinet, >> which also gives you the option of getting something with a metal grille, > to >> repel attacks from stumbling feet, flying furniture and other general >> mayhem. >Just checked Celestion spec-sheets, and believe it or not the G12M-70, & >Modern Lead 70 are two different speakers albeit *VERY* similar. Only >mechanical difference appears to be 145mm diameter magnet and 7mm gap >depth for the Modern Lead as opposed to 140mm diameter magnet for the >G12M-70 and a 8mm gap depth. The weight of both magnets is identical >however, as are all of the other listed specs. The frequency/resonance >graphs have identical nooks and crannies, but the modern lead shows a >bit less emphasis on the highs. It would appear as though Celestion >were trying to create a second version of the G12M-70 minus some of the >ice-pick at the top. A kinder, friendlier G12M-70 if you will. Their >product line is rather confusing. -Danny > Those sneaky guys! > Chris