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Back in the late ’60s, his strings were definitely a key to playing blues and rock, as he was much more "tuned in" to how it was done than Fender’s or Gibson’s strings, and I still use them (or D’Addarios) today. His products touched me as much as I touched them, I guess, which was quite a bit. The link was nearly as long as the article, so, WTH: Zoid Posted on Fri, Sep. 10, 2004 Ernie Ball, famed maker of rock guitar strings, dead at 74 Associated Press SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. – Ernie Ball, a pioneer maker of rock ‘n’ roll guitar strings used by legions of artists, from the Rolling Stones to Merle Travis, has died. He was 74. Ball died at his home Thursday after an ongoing illness, the mortuary handling services announced. His strings and instruments were used by music stars over the past four decades, from B.B. King to Metallica. Beginning with a small music shop in the San Fernando Valley, Ball built a business with annual sales of $40 million and a worldwide reputation. Along the way, he bucked traditional thinking in the music business. "He changed the way people thought of guitar accessories, and how they sold and marketed them, and to this day the Ernie Ball way is the industry standard," his son, Sterling Ball, said in a statement. "My dad understood how to make tools for musicians, and our family is deeply proud of being part of this creative process." Born Sherwood Ball, he grew up in Santa Monica and learned how to play the Hawaiian steel guitar from his father when he was 9 years old, according to a history on the Ernie Ball company Web site. As a teenager, he played at a bar in Los Angeles and later toured the Southwest with the Tommy Duncan band. In the 1950s, he enlisted and played with the U.S. Air Force Band for three years. After his service, he played in Los Angeles clubs and landed a staff band job with "Western Varieties," a popular weekly show on KTLA-TV. In 1958, Ball opened a shop in Tarzana that, uniquely, sold only guitars. "Sales reps would come in and say, ‘Ern, you’ve got to sell clarinet reeds, drum sticks, valve oil; blah blah blah,’" Ball recalled. "And I’d tell them ‘I just want to sell guitars.’" In 1962, complaints from customers that they couldn’t find lighter-gauge, flexible strings for their rock ‘n’ roll instruments prompted Ball to create and sell sets of strings he called "Slinkys." They were a hit. He later branched out into instruments and accessories, buying the Music Man electric guitar company in 1985. Ball was not a by-the-book businessman, disregarding profit-and-loss statements, according to the company. "If it feels right, I know it will sell," he once said. Today, Ernie Ball items are sold in more than 5,000 music stores in the United States and exported to more than 70 countries. In addition to his son, Ball is survived by his wife, Ani; sons Sherwood and David; a daughter, Nova, and eight grandchildren. —

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Sounds like a pretty good life….Rock on Ernie ERic

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Back in the late ’60s, his strings were definitely a key to playing blues > and rock, as he was much more "tuned in" to how it was done than Fender’s or > Gibson’s strings, and I still use them (or D’Addarios) today. His products > touched me as much as I touched them, I guess, which was quite a bit. > The link was nearly as long as the article, so, WTH: > Zoid > Posted on Fri, Sep. 10, 2004 > Ernie Ball, famed maker of rock guitar strings, dead at 74 > Associated Press > SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. – Ernie Ball, a pioneer maker of rock ‘n’ roll > guitar strings used by legions of artists, from the Rolling Stones to Merle > Travis, has died. He was 74. > Ball died at his home Thursday after an ongoing illness, the mortuary > handling services announced. > His strings and instruments were used by music stars over the past four > decades, from B.B. King to Metallica. Beginning with a small music shop in > the San Fernando Valley, Ball built a business with annual sales of $40 > million and a worldwide reputation. Along the way, he bucked traditional > thinking in the music business. > "He changed the way people thought of guitar accessories, and how they sold > and marketed them, and to this day the Ernie Ball way is the industry > standard," his son, Sterling Ball, said in a statement. "My dad understood > how to make tools for musicians, and our family is deeply proud of being > part of this creative process." > Born Sherwood Ball, he grew up in Santa Monica and learned how to play the > Hawaiian steel guitar from his father when he was 9 years old, according to > a history on the Ernie Ball company Web site. > As a teenager, he played at a bar in Los Angeles and later toured the > Southwest with the Tommy Duncan band. In the 1950s, he enlisted and played > with the U.S. Air Force Band for three years. After his service, he played > in Los Angeles clubs and landed a staff band job with "Western Varieties," a > popular weekly show on KTLA-TV. > In 1958, Ball opened a shop in Tarzana that, uniquely, sold only guitars. > "Sales reps would come in and say, ‘Ern, you’ve got to sell clarinet reeds, > drum sticks, valve oil; blah blah blah,’" Ball recalled. "And I’d tell them > ‘I just want to sell guitars.’" > In 1962, complaints from customers that they couldn’t find lighter-gauge, > flexible strings for their rock ‘n’ roll instruments prompted Ball to create > and sell sets of strings he called "Slinkys." > They were a hit. He later branched out into instruments and accessories, > buying the Music Man electric guitar company in 1985. > Ball was not a by-the-book businessman, disregarding profit-and-loss > statements, according to the company. "If it feels right, I know it will > sell," he once said. > Today, Ernie Ball items are sold in more than 5,000 music stores in the > United States and exported to more than 70 countries. > In addition to his son, Ball is survived by his wife, Ani; sons Sherwood and > David; a daughter, Nova, and eight grandchildren. > —

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Sheeee- it..! ! !    Sorry to hear it…. I’ve use so many of his set of strings over the years…. Still have some from the later 70’s…  guess I’d better hang on to them for awhile… they’ll be worth something on EBAY…  eh.. ? ? ? RIP  Ernie….! ! ! gtski

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sounds like a pretty good life….Rock on Ernie > ERic > Back in the late ’60s, his strings were definitely a key to playing blues > and rock, as he was much more "tuned in" to how it was done than Fender’s > or > Gibson’s strings, and I still use them (or D’Addarios) today. His products > touched me as much as I touched them, I guess, which was quite a bit. > The link was nearly as long as the article, so, WTH: > Zoid > Posted on Fri, Sep. 10, 2004 > Ernie Ball, famed maker of rock guitar strings, dead at 74 > Associated Press > SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. – Ernie Ball, a pioneer maker of rock ‘n’ roll > guitar strings used by legions of artists, from the Rolling Stones to > Merle > Travis, has died. He was 74. > Ball died at his home Thursday after an ongoing illness, the mortuary > handling services announced. > His strings and instruments were used by music stars over the past four > decades, from B.B. King to Metallica. Beginning with a small music shop in > the San Fernando Valley, Ball built a business with annual sales of $40 > million and a worldwide reputation. Along the way, he bucked traditional > thinking in the music business. > "He changed the way people thought of guitar accessories, and how they > sold > and marketed them, and to this day the Ernie Ball way is the industry > standard," his son, Sterling Ball, said in a statement. "My dad understood > how to make tools for musicians, and our family is deeply proud of being > part of this creative process." > Born Sherwood Ball, he grew up in Santa Monica and learned how to play the > Hawaiian steel guitar from his father when he was 9 years old, according > to > a history on the Ernie Ball company Web site. > As a teenager, he played at a bar in Los Angeles and later toured the > Southwest with the Tommy Duncan band. In the 1950s, he enlisted and played > with the U.S. Air Force Band for three years. After his service, he played > in Los Angeles clubs and landed a staff band job with "Western Varieties," > a > popular weekly show on KTLA-TV. > In 1958, Ball opened a shop in Tarzana that, uniquely, sold only guitars. > "Sales reps would come in and say, ‘Ern, you’ve got to sell clarinet > reeds, > drum sticks, valve oil; blah blah blah,’" Ball recalled. "And I’d tell > them > ‘I just want to sell guitars.’" > In 1962, complaints from customers that they couldn’t find lighter-gauge, > flexible strings for their rock ‘n’ roll instruments prompted Ball to > create > and sell sets of strings he called "Slinkys." > They were a hit. He later branched out into instruments and accessories, > buying the Music Man electric guitar company in 1985. > Ball was not a by-the-book businessman, disregarding profit-and-loss > statements, according to the company. "If it feels right, I know it will > sell," he once said. > Today, Ernie Ball items are sold in more than 5,000 music stores in the > United States and exported to more than 70 countries. > In addition to his son, Ball is survived by his wife, Ani; sons Sherwood > and > David; a daughter, Nova, and eight grandchildren. > —

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A set from the 70’s?  Those vintage, naturally aged, NOS gems will fetch a pretty penny on ebay for sure! Take care, ERic

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sheeee- it..! ! !    Sorry to hear it…. > I’ve use so many of his set of strings over the years…. > Still have some from the later 70’s…  guess I’d better hang on to > them > for awhile… they’ll be worth something on EBAY…  eh.. ? ? ? > RIP  Ernie….! ! ! > gtski > Sounds like a pretty good life….Rock on Ernie > ERic > > Back in the late ’60s, his strings were definitely a key to > playing blues > > and rock, as he was much more "tuned in" to how it was done than > Fender’s > or > > Gibson’s strings, and I still use them (or D’Addarios) today. His > products > > touched me as much as I touched them, I guess, which was quite a > bit. > > The link was nearly as long as the article, so, WTH: > > Zoid > > Posted on Fri, Sep. 10, 2004 > > Ernie Ball, famed maker of rock guitar strings, dead at 74 > > Associated Press > > SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. – Ernie Ball, a pioneer maker of rock ‘n’ > roll > > guitar strings used by legions of artists, from the Rolling Stones > to > Merle > > Travis, has died. He was 74. > > Ball died at his home Thursday after an ongoing illness, the > mortuary > > handling services announced. > > His strings and instruments were used by music stars over the past > four > > decades, from B.B. King to Metallica. Beginning with a small music > shop in > > the San Fernando Valley, Ball built a business with annual sales > of $40 > > million and a worldwide reputation. Along the way, he bucked > traditional > > thinking in the music business. > > "He changed the way people thought of guitar accessories, and how > they > sold > > and marketed them, and to this day the Ernie Ball way is the > industry > > standard," his son, Sterling Ball, said in a statement. "My dad > understood > > how to make tools for musicians, and our family is deeply proud of > being > > part of this creative process." > > Born Sherwood Ball, he grew up in Santa Monica and learned how to > play the > > Hawaiian steel guitar from his father when he was 9 years old, > according > to > > a history on the Ernie Ball company Web site. > > As a teenager, he played at a bar in Los Angeles and later toured > the > > Southwest with the Tommy Duncan band. In the 1950s, he enlisted > and played > > with the U.S. Air Force Band for three years. After his service, > he played > > in Los Angeles clubs and landed a staff band job with "Western > Varieties," > a > > popular weekly show on KTLA-TV. > > In 1958, Ball opened a shop in Tarzana that, uniquely, sold only > guitars. > > "Sales reps would come in and say, ‘Ern, you’ve got to sell > clarinet > reeds, > > drum sticks, valve oil; blah blah blah,’" Ball recalled. "And I’d > tell > them > > ‘I just want to sell guitars.’" > > In 1962, complaints from customers that they couldn’t find > lighter-gauge, > > flexible strings for their rock ‘n’ roll instruments prompted Ball > to > create > > and sell sets of strings he called "Slinkys." > > They were a hit. He later branched out into instruments and > accessories, > > buying the Music Man electric guitar company in 1985. > > Ball was not a by-the-book businessman, disregarding > profit-and-loss > > statements, according to the company. "If it feels right, I know > it will > > sell," he once said. > > Today, Ernie Ball items are sold in more than 5,000 music stores > in the > > United States and exported to more than 70 countries. > > In addition to his son, Ball is survived by his wife, Ani; sons > Sherwood > and > > David; a daughter, Nova, and eight grandchildren. > > —

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I’m looking to buy a decent amp to play with some friends, and maybe some small gigs. My musical taste is older heavier stuff like Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, some AC/DC, etc… I want something that is LOUD enough to play with a small band and in front of some people. I am looking to spend about $550 US. Recommendations??

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>I’m looking to buy a decent amp to play with some friends, and maybe >some small gigs. My musical taste is older heavier stuff like >Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, some AC/DC, etc… I want something >that is LOUD enough to play with a small band and in front of some >people. I am looking to spend about $550 US. Recommendations??

Peavey 5150 combo –  not my favorite amp but it will do what you say in the price range you ask. Thorny

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I agree with this post but will add that any 50-60w Tube combo with decent gain (i.e. 5 12ax7 preamp tubes) will do the trick.  Using a good pickup selection is important as well.  I suggest either Seymour Duncan Invaders or EMG 81’s.  The EMG’s are active and will produce a much more ’saturated’ sound.  Speaker selection is important as well.  I love the sound of the Celestion Custom 90’s but people will probably flame me for that choice. I used to pull off a pretty decent metallica type sound with a Mesa Boogie Studio .22+ amp, and setup my guitar with the invader in the bridge postition and a Dimarzio Tone Zone or Seymour Duncan ‘59 model in the neck. The Studio .22+ with the internal speaker worked great for jamming but I usually used a 4×12 cab when gigging. Hope this helps, Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m looking to buy a decent amp to play with some friends, and maybe >some small gigs. My musical taste is older heavier stuff like >Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, some AC/DC, etc… I want something >that is LOUD enough to play with a small band and in front of some >people. I am looking to spend about $550 US. Recommendations?? > Peavey 5150 combo –  not my favorite amp but it will do what you say > in the price range you ask. > Thorny

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I was going through my MP3s while hooking a different used receiver into my computer for sound.  The first one was dying fast. And I came across my collection of Beatallica songs. http://www.beatallica.org/ Great stuff.  Whether you’re a Beatles fan, or a Metal fan, or both. They have two Beatallica albums by now, and they’re all free MP3 downloads.  And the production is actually pretty good. "HEY DUDE Hey, dude-it’z true not sad Take a thrash song and make it better Remembah! That metal iz in your heart Then you can start to be a fretter Hey, dude-don’t be fuckin’ ‘fraid You were made to go be a shreader The minute you let us under your skin Then you’ll begin to be a fretter" Almost enough to make me go out and buy a Metallica CD, but I’d be afraid that it wouldn’t be as good as Beatallica. The new (used) receiver is working great fwiw. Pete — Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I was going through my MP3s while hooking a different used receiver >into my computer for sound.  The first one was dying fast. >And I came across my collection of Beatallica songs. >http://www.beatallica.org/ >Great stuff.  Whether you’re a Beatles fan, or a Metal fan, or both. >They have two Beatallica albums by now, and they’re all free MP3 >downloads.  And the production is actually pretty good. >"HEY DUDE >Hey, dude-it’z true not sad >Take a thrash song and make it better >Remembah! That metal iz in your heart >Then you can start to be a fretter >Hey, dude-don’t be fuckin’ ‘fraid >You were made to go be a shreader >The minute you let us under your skin >Then you’ll begin to be a fretter" >Almost enough to make me go out and buy a Metallica CD, but I’d be >afraid that it wouldn’t be as good as Beatallica. >The new (used) receiver is working great fwiw.

Metallica with the SF Symphony is pretty good. Might not compare though. Claude

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was going through my MP3s while hooking a different used receiver >into my computer for sound.  The first one was dying fast. >And I came across my collection of Beatallica songs. >http://www.beatallica.org/ >Great stuff.  Whether you’re a Beatles fan, or a Metal fan, or both. >They have two Beatallica albums by now, and they’re all free MP3 >downloads.  And the production is actually pretty good. >"HEY DUDE >Hey, dude-it’z true not sad >Take a thrash song and make it better >Remembah! That metal iz in your heart >Then you can start to be a fretter >Hey, dude-don’t be fuckin’ ‘fraid >You were made to go be a shreader >The minute you let us under your skin >Then you’ll begin to be a fretter" >Almost enough to make me go out and buy a Metallica CD, but I’d be >afraid that it wouldn’t be as good as Beatallica. >The new (used) receiver is working great fwiw. >Metallica with the SF Symphony is pretty good. >Might not compare though. >Claude

That’s the trouble.  I haven’t been a Metallica fan, so I wouldn’t know the best CD to get.  Actually, a Metallica album would be a waste of $15 or so dollars for me, because it’s not the kind of stuff I listen to.  Beatallica is sort of a blast to put on every month or two though. Now that I have my computer’s sound working again, I’m busy watching the Peter Green & Splinter Group DVD again for only the second time. I’m liking it better the second time than I did on it’s first viewing. Trouble is, I’m watching the SOB play, and thinking that in his diminished capacity, he’s a better guitar player than I am.  And he’s actually quite good on slide, and I can’t do squat on slide. That’s more the kind of stuff that I normally put on, but the Beatallica stuff is so good, I can’t help plugging their project once in a while. Pete — Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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> I was going through my MP3s while hooking a different used receiver > into my computer for sound.  The first one was dying fast. > And I came across my collection of Beatallica songs. > http://www.beatallica.org/ > Great stuff.  Whether you’re a Beatles fan, or a Metal fan, or both.

These guys are great! The vocalist nails Hetfield’s sound perfectly. If there’s ever a Metalimania show, he’ll get the job.

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>> I was going through my MP3s while hooking a different used receiver > into my computer for sound.  The first one was dying fast. > And I came across my collection of Beatallica songs. > http://www.beatallica.org/ > Great stuff.  Whether you’re a Beatles fan, or a Metal fan, or both. >These guys are great! The vocalist nails Hetfield’s sound perfectly. >If there’s ever a Metalimania show, he’ll get the job.

"Sgt. Hetfield

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(rant) They have a new scheme, I think. Forbes usually ranks people and businesses by looking at cold hard (cash-related) facts and putting them on a list that makes some mathematical sense. I didn’t see the last few issues of this annual list, so I don’t know when they started doing this, but this year they’ve used some sort of touchy-feely ranking system. I quote: "Start with money. Add fame. Mix. We rank the relative star power of actors, atheletes. singers and talking heads — how much they earn and how many people are paying attention." "Relative star power"? "Fame"? This is the sort of ranking system celebrity-oriented mags use, and they each come up with radically different lists. There is never any indication that a pole was taken. It’s just a few people, probably interns throwing darts, deciding where everybody goes on the list. I don’t feel right about Forbes doing this. (endrant) Back on topic: Here are the musicians on the list: Musician                "power"      money        pay (millions) Rolling Stones             5           11         $51 Bruuuuuuce                 8            8         $64 Beyonce Knowles           19           57         $23 The Eagles                21           15         $43 Celine Dion               26           35         $28 Metallica                 27           20         $35 Fleetwood Mac             28           12         $45 Dave Matthews Band        30           35         $28 Cher                      40           42         $27 Simon & Garfunkel         46           25         $33 Jessica Simpson           61           93         $ 4 And here’s the list you realy wanted: Chicks Angelina Jolie            13           44         $27 Cameron Diaz              14           26         $32 Jennifer Aniston          17           50         $25 Julia Roberts             24           51         $25 Sandra Bullock            44           29         $30 The Olsen Twins           48           35         $28 Renee Zellweger           50           62         $21 Halle Berry               55           70         $19 Catherine Zeta-Jones      56           71         $18 Serena Williams           63           78         $ 9.5 Courtney Cox              65           55         $23 Paris Hilton              70           97         $ 2 Lisa Kudrow               74           55         $23 Venus Williams            77           80         $ 8.5 Queer-Eye Guys            78           96         $ 3.5 Anna Kournikova           82           87         $ 6 Heidi Klum                87           83         $ 7.8 Milla Jovovich            91           77         $ 9.8 Tyra Banks                93           93         $ 4 Gisele Bundchen           94           76         $10 Carolyn Murphy            99           89         $ 5 (Underage chicks omitted) (Old chicks also omitted) (Fat chicks omitted) Steppenvalve

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Yeah, but when does the Bass player list come out ? So who do you think is the wealthiest Bass player ? Sting ???

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>Yeah, but when does the Bass player list come out ? So who do you think >is the wealthiest Bass player ? Sting ???

It would be close…either Sting or Paul McCartney.                                  Aloha, Jerry

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>>Yeah, but when does the Bass player list come out ? So who do you think >is the wealthiest Bass player ? Sting ??? >It would be close…either Sting or Paul McCartney. >                                 Aloha, Jerry

Or John Kerry.

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Look at page 140 of that issue for a cool write-up on Dan Lakin and Lakland Basses. Online version here: http://p219.ezboard.com/fthedudepitfrm21.showMessage?topicID=763.topic Steve "Dude" Barr http://www.TheDudePit.com http://www.VintageBass.com http://www.schoolofbass.com Another one coming soon!

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>Yeah, but when does the Bass player list come out ? So who do you think >is the wealthiest Bass player ? Sting ??? > It would be close…either Sting or Paul McCartney. >                                  Aloha, Jerry

Gene Simmons maybe?  He’s always sellin’ stuff with pictures of Kiss on it.

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Saw this in the Business section of the Chicago Tribune 4/14/04: To welcome the Buick Velite concept convertible designed to take on the Japanese in the luxury segment begining in 2007, General Motors held a dinner and served sushi. GM said Velite, which will take the place of the Park Avenue, was named for  "an elite class of quick moving soldiers in Napolean’s army". GM did not, however, say whether, in keeping with the Napolean theme, a future vehicle would be named Waterloo.   Looks like I got two more years to make up my mine  whether I want to buy the Park Avenue or not. Harryface       1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE  3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey

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> Saw this in the Business section of the Chicago Tribune 4/14/04: > To welcome the Buick Velite concept convertible designed to take on the > Japanese in the luxury segment begining in 2007, General Motors held a > dinner and served sushi. > GM said Velite, which will take the place of the Park Avenue, was named > for  "an elite class of quick moving soldiers in Napolean’s army". GM > did not, however, say whether, in keeping with the Napolean theme, a > future vehicle would be named Waterloo. > Looks like I got two more years to make up my mine  whether I want to > buy the Park Avenue or not.

That is one sweet looking car. It’s the only Buick that I wouldn’t mind owning.

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How will a two seat V6 RWD convertible replace Buick’s large FWD Park Avenue?   mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Saw this in the Business section of the Chicago Tribune 4/14/04: > To welcome the Buick Velite concept convertible designed to take on the > Japanese in the luxury segment begining in 2007, General Motors held a > dinner and served sushi. > GM said Velite, which will take the place of the Park Avenue, was named > for  "an elite class of quick moving soldiers in Napolean’s army". GM > did not, however, say whether, in keeping with the Napolean theme, a > future vehicle would be named Waterloo. > Looks like I got two more years to make up my mine  whether I want to > buy the Park Avenue or not. > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE >  3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey

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Don’t know MIke, perhaps there will be a 4 door & a convertible. Time will tell. Harryface       1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE  3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey

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> How will a two seat V6 RWD convertible replace Buick’s large > FWD Park Avenue?  

There will sedan version; much like the GTO, this is a Holden (in this case the forthcoming VE Commodore) in Buick clothing. — Levi Ramsey How can anybody be enlightened?  Truth is, after all, so poorly lit… Currently playing: Metallica – …And Justice For All – Dyers Eve Linux 2.6.2-3mdk  07:04:00 up 40 days,  6:20, 12 users,  load average: 0.79, 0.63, 0.62

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Not so.  The new 2006 Park Ave will be built off the Zeta platform as will the yet unnamed LeSabre RWD replacement. The stretched Zeta Park Ave will offer a V8 while the LeSabre RWD replacement while remain a V6. mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How will a two seat V6 RWD convertible replace Buick’s large > FWD Park Avenue? > There will sedan version; much like the GTO, this is a Holden (in this > case the forthcoming VE Commodore) in Buick clothing. > — > Levi Ramsey > How can anybody be enlightened?  Truth is, after all, so poorly lit… > Currently playing: Metallica – …And Justice For All – Dyers Eve > Linux 2.6.2-3mdk >  07:04:00 up 40 days,  6:20, 12 users,  load average: 0.79, 0.63, 0.62

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The 2006 Park Ave will continue as a 4dr sedan with a V8, no convertible will be offered. mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Don’t know MIke, perhaps there will be a 4 door & a convertible. > Time will tell. > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE >  3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey

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> Not so.  The new 2006 Park Ave will be built off the Zeta > platform as will the yet unnamed LeSabre RWD replacement. > The stretched Zeta Park Ave will offer a V8 while the LeSabre RWD > replacement while remain a V6.

And the Zeta is… the Velite’s platform.  I’m right, and you’re wrong. Thanks for playing: http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/040406-1.htm "GM unveiled the Buick Velite today, an upscale rear-drive mid-size automobile. Named for an elite class of quick-moving soldiers in Napoleon’s army, the Velite was designed at GM’s Advanced Studio in Warren, Michigan and assembled at coachbuilder Stile Bertone’s studio in Italy. *Its sister car, the Opel Insignia, debuted the Zeta architecture* at the Frankfurt International Auto Show last year." — Levi Ramsey How can anybody be enlightened?  Truth is, after all, so poorly lit… Currently playing: Metallica – Garage Inc. – Mercyful Fate Linux 2.6.2-3mdk  17:27:00 up 40 days, 16:43, 12 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.38, 0.60

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Yes it is built on a Zeta platform but a short wheel base version with a V6, not the long wheel base V8 version on which the Park Ave. will be built.  So you see to say the Velite will replace the Park Ave is not correct.  Therefore I’m the one that is correct and YOU are wrong.  Now finish you homework before your Dad gets home.   mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not so.  The new 2006 Park Ave will be built off the Zeta > platform as will the yet unnamed LeSabre RWD replacement. > The stretched Zeta Park Ave will offer a V8 while the LeSabre RWD > replacement while remain a V6. > And the Zeta is… the Velite’s platform.  I’m right, and you’re wrong. > Thanks for playing: > http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/040406-1.htm > "GM unveiled the Buick Velite today, an upscale rear-drive mid-size > automobile. Named for an elite class of quick-moving soldiers in > Napoleon’s army, the Velite was designed at GM’s Advanced Studio in > Warren, Michigan and assembled at coachbuilder Stile Bertone’s studio in > Italy. *Its sister car, the Opel Insignia, debuted the Zeta architecture* > at the Frankfurt International Auto Show last year." > — > Levi Ramsey > How can anybody be enlightened?  Truth is, after all, so poorly lit… > Currently playing: Metallica – Garage Inc. – Mercyful Fate > Linux 2.6.2-3mdk >  17:27:00 up 40 days, 16:43, 12 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.38, 0.60

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> As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won’t work > on it because it’s not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a > problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with > the site itself.

Validating will work fine.  Just because perl (or any other CGI script or program) is used to produce the page (allowing dynamic content among other possible reasons) it still produces HTML, since that’s essentiall the only thing the browers understand (possibly XML or variants) and even if you use java or javascript, they are embedded within an HTML page.

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>I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and >let me know what you think about the site – design, layout,

Looks OK to me. Maybe a bit more detail would be good – I’d suggest looking at the various supermarket/brokers’ websites if you haven’t already done that (Motorpoint, Broadspeed, Drivethedeal, Virgin, Broker4Cars, etc.). — Paul My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003): http://paulrooney.netfirms.com

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Okay okay!  Well the current Mozilla based browser named Firefox is real good.  For email… there’s always some old standby like Eudora or Pegasus if your email needs aren’t too complex.  Internet Exploiter doesn’t have to be used to be sure.  Oh yeah, and for news get Forte’s Agent or Free Agent. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Right, but before Firebird became Firefox, it used to be called Phoenix >(which had to be changed due to a conflict with the BIOS manufacturer >Phoenix). There has to be a pyromaniac working somewhere in the Mozilla >organization. >Cosmin >>As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when >>they named these apps! > Thunderbird > Firebird (became Firefox because of a name conflict with the open-sourced > Interbase) > Camino > (kinda have to wonder if "Cutlass" is on their list of future names…)

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I have recently set-up a website with my uncle.  He runs an importing business to the UK from around the world. I know next to nothing about the car business and my uncle knows next to nothing about IT so we have come to a compromise over the site. One of my friends recommended news groups as an excellent forum in which I could research the business and tap some of the expert knowledge that is out there.  It is hard to find the hybrid of car experts and computer literacy through any other medium. I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and let me know what you think about the site – design, layout, I can assure you that I am not touting for new business but am carrying out research to provide my uncle with the best possible chance of accessing the web market (which I’ve promised him). Thanks for reading this mail and I can only apologise to anyone that thinks this is an inappropriate posting. Cheers James http://www.maguiresgarage.co.uk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have recently set-up a website with my uncle.  He runs an importing > business to the UK from around the world. > I know next to nothing about the car business and my uncle knows next > to nothing about IT so we have come to a compromise over the site. > One of my friends recommended news groups as an excellent forum in > which I could research the business and tap some of the expert > knowledge that is out there.  It is hard to find the hybrid of car > experts and computer literacy through any other medium. > I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and > let me know what you think about the site – design, layout, > I can assure you that I am not touting for new business but am > carrying out research to provide my uncle with the best possible > chance of accessing the web market (which I’ve promised him). > Thanks for reading this mail and I can only apologise to anyone that > thinks this is an inappropriate posting. > Cheers > James > http://www.maguiresgarage.co.uk

James, Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, blocking some of the graphics. More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser allowed. Good luck, Harry

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have recently set-up a website with my uncle.  He runs an importing > business to the UK from around the world. > I know next to nothing about the car business and my uncle knows next > to nothing about IT so we have come to a compromise over the site. > One of my friends recommended news groups as an excellent forum in > which I could research the business and tap some of the expert > knowledge that is out there.  It is hard to find the hybrid of car > experts and computer literacy through any other medium. > I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and > let me know what you think about the site – design, layout, > I can assure you that I am not touting for new business but am > carrying out research to provide my uncle with the best possible > chance of accessing the web market (which I’ve promised him). > Thanks for reading this mail and I can only apologise to anyone that > thinks this is an inappropriate posting. > Cheers > James > http://www.maguiresgarage.co.uk > James, > Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from > the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, > blocking some of the graphics. > More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s > software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding > various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code > constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal > favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page > produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. > Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any > observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I > don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser > allowed. > Good luck, > Harry

James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at http://validator.w3.org/ – this is a non-denominational service that simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells you what is valid and what is not. — RFT!!! Dave Kelsen I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.

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[snip] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> James, > Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from > the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, > blocking some of the graphics. > More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s > software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding > various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code > constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal > favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page > produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. > Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any > observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I > don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser > allowed. > Good luck, > Harry > James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at > http://validator.w3.org/ – this is a non-denominational service that > simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells > you what is valid and what is not.

The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7. Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape 4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc. As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won’t work on it because it’s not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with the site itself. Cosmin

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > [snip] >> James, >> Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from >> the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, >> blocking some of the graphics. >> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s >> software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding >> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code >> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal >> favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page >> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. >> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any >> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I >> don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser >> allowed. >> Good luck, >> Harry > James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at > http://validator.w3.org/ – this is a non-denominational service that > simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells > you what is valid and what is not. > The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7. > Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the > header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape > 4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to > http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable > version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into > Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc. > As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won’t work > on it because it’s not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a > problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with > the site itself. > Cosmin

Cosmin, You’re exactly right – I was accessing the site with Netscape 4.7 through Windows 98.  I do have Netscape 7.1 on the same machine and have a couple of Linux browsers on another.  I’ll use those and see if I get better results. I should have looked at the source before I assumed that it was HTML! Thanks for your much more intelligent information. Regards, Harry

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> [snip] > >> James, > >> Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from > >> the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, > >> blocking some of the graphics. > >> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s > >> software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding > >> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code > >> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal > >> favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page > >> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. > >> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any > >> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I > >> don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser > >> allowed. > >> Good luck, > >> Harry > > James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at > > http://validator.w3.org/ – this is a non-denominational service that > > simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells > > you what is valid and what is not. > The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7. > Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the > header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape > 4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to > http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable > version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into > Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc. > As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won’t work > on it because it’s not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a > problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with > the site itself. > Cosmin > Cosmin, > You’re exactly right – I was accessing the site with Netscape 4.7 > through Windows 98.  I do have Netscape 7.1 on the same machine and have > a couple of Linux browsers on another.  I’ll use those and see if I get > better results. > I should have looked at the source before I assumed that it was HTML! > Thanks for your much more intelligent information. > Regards, > Harry

I did even worse, Harry; I didn’t look at the page! Thanks for the proper info, Cosmin. — RFT!!! Dave Kelsen Since the invention of the calendar, our days have been numbered.

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I suggest Firefox.  It is based on Mozilla and has great adware/spyware/spam protection features.  Plus it can use IE favorites IN PLACE. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >[snip] >> James, >> Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from >> the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, >> blocking some of the graphics. >> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s >> software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding >> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code >> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal >> favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page >> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. >> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any >> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I >> don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser >> allowed. >> Good luck, >> Harry > James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at > http://validator.w3.org/ – this is a non-denominational service that > simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells > you what is valid and what is not. >The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7. >Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the >header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape >4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to >http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable >version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into >Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc. >As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won’t work >on it because it’s not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a >problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with >the site itself. >Cosmin

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Firefox (or whatever they’re calling it this week) works well too. I suggested Mozilla though because it also includes a great email client. I know you can use Thunderbird which is based on Mozilla’s email client, but that’s still too much of a beta version (lacking a proper installer, and a few other rough edges). As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when they named these apps! Cosmin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I suggest Firefox.  It is based on Mozilla and has great > adware/spyware/spam protection features.  Plus it can use IE favorites > IN PLACE. >[snip] >>>James, >>>Nice home page, but the "Welcome…" box should automatically clear from >>>the screen in a few seconds — on my browser at least, it persists, >>>blocking some of the graphics. >>>More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft’s >>>software ("FrontPage"?).  If that is true, then you will be excluding >>>various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft’s code >>>constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal >>>favorite) to freeze up or crash.  Trying to access your "Forefront" page >>>produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example. >>>Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don’t have any >>>observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I >>>don’t patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser >>>allowed. >>>Good luck, >>>Harry >>James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at >>http://validator.w3.org/ – this is a non-denominational service that >>simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells >>you what is valid and what is not. >The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7. >Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the >header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape >4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to >http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable >version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into >Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc. >As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won’t work >on it because it’s not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a >problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with >the site itself. >Cosmin > ** To email a reply, please remove everything up to and > including the underscore in my email reply header.

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> As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when > they named these apps!

Thunderbird Firebird (became Firefox because of a name conflict with the open-sourced Interbase) Camino (kinda have to wonder if "Cutlass" is on their list of future names…) — Levi Ramsey How can anybody be enlightened?  Truth is, after all, so poorly lit… Currently playing: Metallica – …And Justice For All – Dyers Eve Linux 2.6.2-3mdk  07:02:00 up 40 days,  6:18, 12 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.41, 0.56

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Right, but before Firebird became Firefox, it used to be called Phoenix (which had to be changed due to a conflict with the BIOS manufacturer Phoenix). There has to be a pyromaniac working somewhere in the Mozilla organization. Cosmin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when >they named these apps! > Thunderbird > Firebird (became Firefox because of a name conflict with the open-sourced > Interbase) > Camino > (kinda have to wonder if "Cutlass" is on their list of future names…)

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Looking for some good quality mp3 or midi backing tracks for the blues. If there is a resource on the net please point me in the right direction. Thanks

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I found many by using Google search. Type in "Midi jam trax", and stuff like that. Use the quotation marks for the exact phrase.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Looking for some good quality mp3 or midi backing tracks for the > blues. > If there is a resource on the net please point me in the right > direction. > Thanks

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My son is in a band. The drummer just up and left everyone. I am trying to find free mp3 backing tracks that have drums for popular rock songs. Zeppelin, Who, Sknyrd, classic rock stuff. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks Frankie Ballbags

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Hi, Not sure about mp3 tracks, but it is quite easy to make any backing tracks from midi files, they dont sound quite as good but it is so easy to get any song. Just download the midi, a simple search in google for something like free bird midi and you’ll find many. Then use a program like ‘Music Masterworks’ or some other midi file editor.  Just open the midi, you will find all the tracks in the midi listed, like guitar 1, voice, bass etc. Just delete all the tracks from the midi except the drum track(s). Hit save and you now have a midi drum track for that song. The good thing with this is you can delete everything except for the drum and bass tracks, for anyone who just wants to play over a backing track by themselves. Quite often I just hit play on the cd and play along, but the odd songs like Metallica’s Sad but True, which is tunned down a step, are annoying.  Using the midi backing tracks you can automatically transpose the bass up a step, giving you that song in standard tuning, good when you want to practice a song without retuning your whole guitar. Aye, Jon.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. Now I can experiment. I truly appreciate this knowledge you were king enough to share. This will also help me search for more info on the web! Frankie "Ballbags"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > Not sure about mp3 tracks, but it is quite easy to make any backing > tracks from midi files, they dont sound quite as good but it is so > easy to get any song. > Just download the midi, a simple search in google for something like > free bird midi and you’ll find many. > Then use a program like ‘Music Masterworks’ or some other midi file > editor.  Just open the midi, you will find all the tracks in the midi > listed, like guitar 1, voice, bass etc. > Just delete all the tracks from the midi except the drum track(s). > Hit save and you now have a midi drum track for that song. > The good thing with this is you can delete everything except for the > drum and bass tracks, for anyone who just wants to play over a backing > track by themselves. > Quite often I just hit play on the cd and play along, but the odd > songs like Metallica’s Sad but True, which is tunned down a step, are > annoying.  Using the midi backing tracks you can automatically > transpose the bass up a step, giving you that song in standard tuning, > good when you want to practice a song without retuning your whole > guitar. > Aye, Jon.

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  I just played a Marshall DSL-100 and I love the classic crunch channel.  I know the amp is a literal P.O.S. with *issues*, but I love that crunch. What *classic crunch* amp is this simulating?  I don’t get this sound with my 1987.  winnard

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My Rect-O-Verb has a simillar setting, it’s called Vintage mode.  It is the real sweet spot of the amp, but it doens’t sound like any vintage amp I’ve ever owned.  It’s sounds more like Metallica on Master of Puppets but that’s with the gain only set on about 6.  I think it’s a misnomer.  The high gain (modern) channel is un-usable at low volumes, but it can really punch at higher volumes. Maybe turn the classic crunch channel on when you are playing at high volume and you might hear some ‘oldie’ sound in there Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->   I just played a Marshall DSL-100 and I love the classic crunch channel. I > know the amp is a literal P.O.S. with *issues*, but I love that crunch. > What *classic crunch* amp is this simulating?  I don’t get this sound with > my 1987. >  winnard

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> > Hey; > I want a bass for my son–he’s a pretty good guitar player > and wants to learn bass too.  He said he doesn’t want > a six-string but I saw a good deal on a Cort 6-string, > neck thru.  Looked pretty cool. Thought he might like it > later (plus I would like to play it too). Would he learn > to like it?  Is this a good bass to start out on?  If not > what would be a good bass to begin with? I don’t want a > real cheapey. Please advise; and thanks! > The standard answer would be he should start on a 5 string > bass. The 6 string is a bit specialized and the wide neck takes > some getting used to, to usually people don’t play 6 string > basses unless they get into the kind of thing that demands it.

I switched from a 4-string to a 6-string with no problem whatsoever. The 6-string even has the widest of necks (it’s a Warwick Streamer Stage I), but that never bothered me. Sure, I have pretty big hands, but I guess one can simply make the transition without having to shell out cash for yet another bass! RS —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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Vic, There’s nothing wrong with a Squire, if it’s a good one.  These can be good players and for not much money and he’ll get a feel to where he wants to be,4, 5 or whatever . There are lots of upgrades that can be done to a Fender Squire; a pickup change is one that comes to mind. —              Ron "I have to go practise now" There is only one of me, so, if you want to respond to me drop the "s".

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Wow, > What incredible advice–I think it covers the gamut! Lots > of well thought out and astute advice.  Thanks for giving > your time and thoughts, all of you!  Now to make the > decision… My son is currently borrowing a friends > Squire P-bass, trying to get ready to accompany his school > choir on a few jazz standards for the Lionel Hampton Jazz > Festival (many schools go and compete over 4-days). > They’re doing Blue Skies, Baby it’s Cold Outside, and another > that escapes me. He wants to take up the bass to play in > the high-school jazz band next year.  They have to play 2 > instruments so he’ll keep playing the guitar.  (He plays > violin currently but only because he has to, and wants to > drop it). > He usually plays Metallica, and a little blues; SRV, some > T-bone Walker I’ve taught him.  He’s got > a great advantage because his older brother plays drums and > they love to jam together–but it’s mostly metal.  They don’t > do jazz or blues together unfortunately. > They’ve had trouble finding a bass player, and that’s > one reason he wants to learn it, but he really likes > the rhythm and low register, and the feeling the bass gives. > Anyway, sorry for rambling, you guys rock! > Vic

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Wow, What incredible advice–I think it covers the gamut! Lots of well thought out and astute advice.  Thanks for giving your time and thoughts, all of you!  Now to make the decision… My son is currently borrowing a friends Squire P-bass, trying to get ready to accompany his school choir on a few jazz standards for the Lionel Hampton Jazz Festival (many schools go and compete over 4-days). They’re doing Blue Skies, Baby it’s Cold Outside, and another that escapes me. He wants to take up the bass to play in the high-school jazz band next year.  They have to play 2 instruments so he’ll keep playing the guitar.  (He plays violin currently but only because he has to, and wants to drop it). He usually plays Metallica, and a little blues; SRV, some T-bone Walker I’ve taught him.  He’s got a great advantage because his older brother plays drums and they love to jam together–but it’s mostly metal.  They don’t do jazz or blues together unfortunately. They’ve had trouble finding a bass player, and that’s one reason he wants to learn it, but he really likes the rhythm and low register, and the feeling the bass gives. Anyway, sorry for rambling, you guys rock! Vic

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agree with Kristoff I think you’d better buy him a 4 strings. If you can find a Cort artisan B4 or A4; you have a real good deal. I play a B4 and i’m quite in every style of sounds. Your son will better learn on a 4 strings; and like said Kristoff, after; he will feel if he want more strings. Personnaly, after 6 years of guitar, i switched to bass; and start with a four strings. Two years later, i picked up a five strings. I played it two years; and finally come back for the 4 strings; definitely. Don’t buy him a Six for the first time; you risk to disgust him for the bass. But don’t be afraid; if he like bass playing; you risk to have to buy a lot of gear in few moments !!!     GAAAAAAAAASSSSS !!!! basst

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> Organization: http://groups.google.com/ > Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps > How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark > Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you > woke up 7 hours later?

My college roommate had a copy of "Dark Side of the Moon" that had a skip, in time, that made the lyrics go "round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round…and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… " No collector’s value, yet priceless. Zoid z9design.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Organization: http://groups.google.com/ > Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps >> How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark >> Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you >> woke up 7 hours later? > My college roommate had a copy of "Dark Side of the Moon" that had a skip, > in time, that made the lyrics go "round… and round… and round… and > round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… > and round… and round… and round… and round…and round… and round… > and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and > round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… > and round… " > No collector’s value, yet priceless.

A friend had a copy of the White Album with a scratch on Rocky Racoon.."and rocky said doc it’s only a scratch POP and rocky said doc it’s only a scratch POPand rocky said…" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Zoid > z9design.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Organization: http://groups.google.com/ > > Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps > >> How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark > >> Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you > >> woke up 7 hours later? > My college roommate had a copy of "Dark Side of the Moon" that had a skip, > in time, that made the lyrics go "round… and round… and round… and > round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… > and round… and round… and round… and round…and round… and > round… > and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and > round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… > and round… " > No collector’s value, yet priceless. > A friend had a copy of the White Album with a scratch on Rocky Racoon.."and > rocky said doc it’s only a scratch POP and rocky said doc it’s only a > scratch POPand rocky said…"

and…. …  we were driving through Denver one spring, listening to the radio and hit a pot-hole on Monaco Blvd.   At that instant the record on the radio hit a skip…    strange. gtski

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>A friend had a copy of the White Album with a scratch on Rocky Racoon.."and >rocky said doc it’s only a scratch POP and rocky said doc it’s only a >scratch POPand rocky said…"

I had a cassette that I dubbed from a record that had a chronic skip at one point, and when I made the dub, it had skipped three times before I gave the cartridge a little nudge to get it back on track. Whenever I played that tape with someone else in the car, I’d wait for that song, count the three skips, and reach over and smack the dashboard.  Got some strange looks doing that.

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> I had a cassette that I dubbed from a record that had a chronic skip > at one point, and when I made the dub, it had skipped three times > before I gave the cartridge a little nudge to get it back on track. > Whenever I played that tape with someone else in the car, I’d wait for > that song, count the three skips, and reach over and smack the > dashboard.  Got some strange looks doing that.

Now that’s funny! April fools day on my drive time College radio show, I played the sounds of a radar detector going off.  I got a call from a guy who said he didn’t even own a radar detector and he STILL slammed on his breaks.  He was slightly pissed, but he liked the joke a lot once he got to blow off some steam. Curt.

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> Organization: http://groups.google.com/ > Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps >> How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark >> Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you >> woke up 7 hours later?

I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I used to just play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for some oldies, I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My college roommate had a copy of "Dark Side of the Moon" that had a skip, > in time, that made the lyrics go "round… and round… and round… and > round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… > and round… and round… and round… and round…and round… and round… > and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and > round… and round… and round… and round… and round… and round… > and round… " > No collector’s value, yet priceless. > Zoid > z9design.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had a cassette that I dubbed from a record that had a chronic skip > at one point, and when I made the dub, it had skipped three times > before I gave the cartridge a little nudge to get it back on track. > Whenever I played that tape with someone else in the car, I’d wait for > that song, count the three skips, and reach over and smack the > dashboard.  Got some strange looks doing that. > Now that’s funny! > April fools day on my drive time College radio show, I played the sounds of > a radar detector going off.  I got a call from a guy who said he didn’t even > own a radar detector and he STILL slammed on his breaks.  He was slightly > pissed, but he liked the joke a lot once he got to blow off some steam. > Curt.

That’s a scream..! ! ! ! gtski

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> I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred > of them. I used to just > play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a > hankerin’ for some oldies, > I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to > CD.

Similar here… pull out the vinyl for serious listening, otherwise have all of them ripped to MP3’s for convenience. FWIW, an ADAT deck (or similar) set to write an end of block when it sees silence is a really easy way to split out the tracks from the LP. Used a Tascam DA-20MKII here. Also seem to recall a project where a guy was putting LP’s on his flatbed scanner and using software to read the grooves/music from the scanned image.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Organization: http://groups.google.com/ > > Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps > >> How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark > >> Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you > >> woke up 7 hours later? > I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I used > to just > play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for some > oldies, > I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD.

I have one(1) vinyl LP left:  Rory Gallagher "Sinner and Saint". It’s out of print, to the best of my knowledge. I don’t even have a turntable to play it on, but I’m keeping it.

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That’s what I’ve been doing to – transferring to CD – stuff that I KNOW I’ll never find on CD (like ‘Sid Sings’) However, and I did ask this earlier to the group, once you burn it, and don’t really have use for the LP (if it’s not that rare) what does one do with them?? Do you toss them in the trash, or is there a good place to donate them to. Is anybody in here interested in vinyl LP’s?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I > used to just > play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for > some oldies, > I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > That’s what I’ve been doing to – transferring to CD – stuff that I KNOW > I’ll never find on CD (like ‘Sid Sings’) > However, and I did ask this earlier to the group, once you burn it, and > don’t really have use for the LP (if it’s not that rare) what does one > do with them?? Do you toss them in the trash, or is there a good place > to donate them to. > Is anybody in here interested in vinyl LP’s?? >I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I >used to just >play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for >some oldies, >I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD.

Hi, I still have one functioning turn-table and also reel to reel tape player, cassette player, CD/DVD player. In my town there is a store who still deal in LPs. I notice there is still some demand for turn tables. Tony

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> That’s what I’ve been doing to – transferring to CD – stuff > that I KNOW I’ll never find on CD (like ‘Sid Sings’) > However, and I did ask this earlier to the group, once you > burn it, and don’t really have use for the LP (if it’s not > that rare) what does one do with them?? Do you toss them in > the trash, or is there a good place to donate them to. > Is anybody in here interested in vinyl LP’s??

Pick me! Seriously, if you’ve got a bunch of vinyl in good condition that you’re looking to unload, I wouldn’t mind adding to the collection. I play ‘em all the time. (the earlier mention of rips to MP3 are mostly for piping background music through the house).

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I’ll pick you.  Most of it is rock stuff and Hard Rock stuff.  I’m still undecided as to what will go – but, if you want the stuff, and are willing to pay shipping from Maryland, email me…… You should be able to get it from the headers… Thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Pick me! > Seriously, if you’ve got a bunch of vinyl in good condition that > you’re looking to unload, I wouldn’t mind adding to the > collection. I play ‘em all the time. (the earlier mention of rips > to MP3 are mostly for piping background music through the house).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred > of them. I used to just > play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a > hankerin’ for some oldies, > I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to > CD. > Similar here… pull out the vinyl for serious listening, > otherwise have all of them ripped to MP3’s for convenience. > FWIW, an ADAT deck (or similar) set to write an end of block when > it sees silence is a really easy way to split out the tracks from > the LP. Used a Tascam DA-20MKII here.

As for me, I have a turntable on my audio system and also a Sony RCD W-1 Cd recorder. So all I do is play the album and hit record. It automatically senses and sepearates the tracks. Then if I want to put it into a different format, which is rare, I’ll just copy the CD onto my computer. But that isn’t often as I see no reason to listen to that goofy mp3 format when I already have a bit by bit copy of the original. Although I have occasionally taken an optical feed into my Korg D-16 HD recorder, if the vinyl needs some remastering and de-noising, then I can port it back into the Sony via another optic connection and burn it like that. > Also seem to recall a project where a guy was putting LP’s on his > flatbed scanner and using software to read the grooves/music from > the scanned image.

Yikes! That is whacked. I wonder if that worked out? He must have a really nice scanner.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > Organization: http://groups.google.com/ > > > Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps > > >> How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark > > >> Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you > > >> woke up 7 hours later? > I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I used > to just > play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for some > oldies, > I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD. > I have one(1) vinyl LP left:  Rory Gallagher "Sinner and Saint". It’s > out of print, to the best of my knowledge. I don’t even have a > turntable to play it on, but I’m keeping it.

I wish they still made LP’s, I have some digitally mastered vinyls that make any CD sound like Fisher-Price product. Lyle Lovett and his Large Band comes to mind. Farking modelers! Although a do have some CD’s that are recorded in 5.1 that are kind of cool too.

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> That’s what I’ve been doing to – transferring to CD – stuff that I KNOW > I’ll never find on CD (like ‘Sid Sings’) > However, and I did ask this earlier to the group, once you burn it, and > don’t really have use for the LP (if it’s not that rare) what does one > do with them?? Do you toss them in the trash, or is there a good place > to donate them to. > Is anybody in here interested in vinyl LP’s??

I’d just keep them. IME Cd’s don’t last nearly as long as LPs do. You’ll need to make another copy eventually. Even if the CD is still good 10 years from now, you’ll be able to use them to rip to the next big deal media(memory sticks or whatever) Lp’s are much more archival than is digital data in any form. But that said I still buy vinyl. You see them all the time at yardsales etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I > used to just > play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for > some oldies, > I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That’s what I’ve been doing to – transferring to CD – stuff that I KNOW > I’ll never find on CD (like ‘Sid Sings’) > However, and I did ask this earlier to the group, once you burn it, and > don’t really have use for the LP (if it’s not that rare) what does one > do with them?? Do you toss them in the trash, or is there a good place > to donate them to. > Is anybody in here interested in vinyl LP’s?? >>I still do the occasional vinyl. I still have a few hundred of them. I >>used to just >>play them once, to make cassette copies. Now if I get a hankerin’ for >>some oldies, >>I’ll pull a few and play them once, only now I burn them to CD. > Hi, > I still have one functioning turn-table and also reel to reel tape > player, cassette player, CD/DVD player. In my town there is a store > who still deal in LPs. I notice there is still some demand for > turn tables. > Tony

Oh yeah. There is a huge demand.  Rap made the turntable more valuable than it was. There are some really great tables out there now, but you need to look at the pro DJ stuff instead of the home stereo gear. We have a few LP places too. It seems like the hipsters still like the vinyl. Some bands still release on vinyl too. Metallica releases their stuff on vinyl a couple weeks before they release on other media. Almost all the house,jungle,techno,drum and bass, and space releases are vinyl. If you live largely online or in chain stores, you’d swear vinyl was an anachronism but it is alive and well, even if it is not as widespread as it once was.

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> I’ll pick you.  Most of it is rock stuff and Hard Rock stuff.  I’m still > undecided as to what will go – but, if you want the stuff, and are willing > to pay shipping from Maryland, email me…… You should be able to get it > from the headers… > Thanks.

Yo……! What he might not want, I would. (I have everything, all styles) I even have some stuff like Lawrence Welk, Vickie Carr, Washington Squares, Hawkwind, and lots of Big Band and Country or Western, you name it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Pick me! > Seriously, if you’ve got a bunch of vinyl in good condition that > you’re looking to unload, I wouldn’t mind adding to the > collection. I play ‘em all the time. (the earlier mention of rips > to MP3 are mostly for piping background music through the house).

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I still have a turntable and a CD recorder too – an Aiwa. But, I have to manually split the tracks when I use the analog inputs.  It’s time consuming, but, it’s in real time, and I don’t have to deal with the MP3 conversion later. As for me, I have a turntable on my audio system and also a Sony RCD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> W-1 Cd recorder. So all I do is play the album and hit record. It > automatically senses and sepearates the tracks. Then if I want to put > it into a different format, which is rare, I’ll just copy the CD onto > my computer. But that isn’t often as I see no reason to listen to that > goofy mp3 format when I already have a bit by bit copy of the > original. > Although I have occasionally taken an optical feed into my Korg D-16 > HD recorder, if the vinyl needs some remastering and de-noising, then > I can port > it back into the Sony via another optic connection and burn it like > that. > Also seem to recall a project where a guy was putting LP’s on his > flatbed scanner and using software to read the grooves/music from > the scanned image. > Yikes! That is whacked. I wonder if that worked out? > He must have a really nice scanner.

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My old AR turntable got snapped up in a second. All my old band tapes are two track and I use and old Akai for that and have one or two Fostex A-8 Masters that I can borrow the machine to mix it down. I use Steinberg’s Clean!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had a cassette that I dubbed from a record that had a chronic skip > at one point, and when I made the dub, it had skipped three times > before I gave the cartridge a little nudge to get it back on track. > Whenever I played that tape with someone else in the car, I’d wait for > that song, count the three skips, and reach over and smack the > dashboard.  Got some strange looks doing that. > Now that’s funny! > April fools day on my drive time College radio show, I played the sounds of > a radar detector going off.  I got a call from a guy who said he didn’t even > own a radar detector and he STILL slammed on his breaks.  He was slightly > pissed, but he liked the joke a lot once he got to blow off some steam. > Curt.

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I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. I never play them anymore, and they’re taking up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the rest. They are not even worth the time to sell them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks an LP. Anybody still play them? BigUnit

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It’s ALL I play.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? > BigUnit

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> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? > BigUnit

Funny you should ask… I’ve been thinking about buying a "record player" from eBay so I can dust off the 200 albums stashed in my closet and recapture some of my youth from time to time. The truth is I’ve grabbed most of my favourite albums from napster over the past couple years so I can listen to it when I feel the need but there was really something special about playing the vinyl discs that you can’t get from a sterile mp3 played on a PC.

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> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? > BigUnit

Funny you should ask… I’ve been thinking about buying a "record player" from eBay so I can dust off the 200 albums stashed in my closet and recapture some of my youth from time to time. The truth is I’ve grabbed most of my favourite albums from napster over the past couple years so I can listen to it when I feel the need but there was really something special about playing the vinyl discs that you can’t get from a sterile mp3 played on a PC. Not only that but I have a lot of out of print vinyl – some of it was never released on CD. Converting them to digital is a real pain too. Dana

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. I never play them > anymore, and they’re taking up too much room. I think I’ll just keep > the cool stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the rest. They > are not even worth the time to sell them on e-bay. Prices are only a > couple bucks an LP. Anybody still play them? > BigUnit > Funny you should ask… > I’ve been thinking about buying a "record player" from eBay so I can > dust off the 200 albums stashed in my closet and recapture some of my > youth from time to time. > The truth is I’ve grabbed most of my favourite albums from napster over > the past > couple years so I can listen to it when I feel the need but there was > really something special about playing the vinyl discs that you can’t > get from a sterile mp3 played on a PC. > Not only that but I have a lot of out of print vinyl – some of it was > never released on CD. Converting them to digital is a real pain too. > Dana

You can rip an album and save it in mp3 format, in fact I’ve downloaded some stuff that has the little pops in it. I’ve been surprised at some of the stuff I’ve been able to find. For instance, I bought an album by the Marc Tanner Band who had about 2 minutes of fame and one song that got some airplay in 1980 (I’m very old and one night I got the urge to hear a song off it so I did a search on kaaza and it was there!! The song was just as bad today as it was back then too but I really dig it nonetheless because it reminds me of that cute little blonde girl from my sophmore chemistry class. Heh…

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<snip> > You can rip an album and save it in mp3 format, in fact I’ve downloaded > some stuff that has the little pops in it. > I’ve been surprised at some of the stuff I’ve been able to find. For > instance, I bought an album by the Marc Tanner Band who had about 2 > minutes of fame and one song that got some airplay in 1980 (I’m very old > and one night I got the urge to hear a song off it so I did a search on > kaaza and it was there!! The song was just as bad today as it was back > then too but I really dig it nonetheless because it reminds me of that > cute little blonde girl from my sophmore chemistry class. Heh…

Really old…1980…hmmm….what’s that make us who took HS chem in the ’60’s?  Relics? More that one of us here. Phil

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I still have a huge collection.  I think my vinyl collection is probably a lot better than my CD collection.  But I have difficulty getting to my turntable, and there isn’t a phono selection on my most recent receiver.  I’m not sure if my turntable even still works by now.  I’d like to get a new one though. Pete >I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. >I never play them anymore, and they’re taking >up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool >stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the >rest. They are not even worth the time to sell >them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks >an LP. Anybody still play them? >BigUnit

– In a thousand years I’ll get right on it –Nibbler

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Are you in the midwest? I’ll pick up ~50 mile radius, KC area. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them?

Lots of people. I do, and the number of requests for turntable repairs steadily increasing(!) here too. In fact I’m looking for a transcription turntable right now (local). (17" records) -Robert ‘Frequently plays prerecorded RtR too.’

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 > > Anybody still play them?

Last night my wife went to a church meeting   so I pulled Neal Young’s Rust never SLeeps   and jammed to side 2 "Powerfinger" and of   course Hurricane … My Marantz turntable   has the cool – speed control so if the open G   is slightly stale .. No problem ! Don’t try that   with Cd’s !   finished of with Green Grass & High Tides ( live)   version … I didn’t switch from the strat to LP however   during the  breaks. All was quiet when she got home. ///

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Speak for yourself!  ;-)  A sophomore in 1980?  Geez, I graduated that year….  :-)  But re LPs, I replaced what I could on CD (and what I couldn’t on cassettes) and sold off the "record player" years ago.  All I kept was my St. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club "picture disc."  I have to say, though, that I do miss records.  There was just something about running the Discwasher over them before lowering the tone arm.  Anyway, I have since "digitized" the contents of my cassettes and sold the cassette deck on Ebay. Regards, Margaret

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’ve been surprised at some of the stuff I’ve been able to find. For > instance, I bought an album by the Marc Tanner Band who had about 2 > minutes of fame and one song that got some airplay in 1980 (I’m very old > and one night I got the urge to hear a song off it so I did a search on > kaaza and it was there!! The song was just as bad today as it was back > then too but I really dig it nonetheless because it reminds me of that > cute little blonde girl from my sophmore chemistry class. Heh…

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>I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. >I never play them anymore, and they’re taking >up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool >stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the >rest. They are not even worth the time to sell >them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks >an LP. Anybody still play them?

Hell yes. They still sound better than CD’s and there’s still tons of great music on them and best yet you can find great records for cheap. Ron

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> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them?

We still have a bunch, and they still get played.

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The ones I like that are OOP, I useSteinberg’s Clean! and make CDs . They sit in the band room taking upspace.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? > BigUnit

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> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? > We still have a bunch, and they still get played.

I have zillions… dating back to the 40s… Long ago I taped a lot of them so as to not wear them out with the turn-table… gtski

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Sorry to go off on a tangent, but how many people learned to play by listening to LP’s? Particularly at 16 speed. (half speed, one octave lower).16 speed wasn’t all that common. Man, I would spend days doing that. I was so good at dropping that needle.

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>> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? >We still have a bunch, and they still get played.

Ditto.  I think I have about 500.  My next-door neighbor has thousands.  Whenever I’m looking for a copy of a song that the band has decided to work up, I hit the next door vinyl library, and find the cut I’m looking for most of the time. -Scott McKnight

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> Sorry to go off on a tangent, but how many people learned to play by > listening to LP’s? Particularly at 16 speed. (half speed, one octave > lower).16 speed wasn’t all that common. Man, I would spend days doing > that. I was so good at dropping that needle.

No…I didn’t play guitar then.  Does this count? How many people fell asleep with headphones on while listening to Dark Side of the Moon and the record was still spininn’ at the end when you woke up 7 hours later? I snagged a like new quality copy of Tommy Bolin "Teaser" last month. Sounds so much better than the CD.  Hot record!

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> I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them?

There are indeed analog purists who may use cassettes or CDs in their vehicle but still prefer LPs at home for their warmer sound. There also seems to be some tactile pleasure inherent in placing the needle in the groove. Vintage turntables using sophisticated pickup arms with little yo-yos hanging at the back still command big prices. And while CDs boast a s/n ratio of something like 95db, nearly nothing released actually takes advantage of this dynamic range, everything being highly compressed and maximised to be louder than the last release. Another long standing complaint about CDs is the loss of album art when the "canvas" became some 85% smaller. And record collecting is huge! Not to say that any old LP is collectable, value is determined by demand, rarity, and condition. And, like first edition books, the original issues are much more collectable than reissues. Probably the best-known LP collectables are original examples of the Beatles’ infamous "Butcher" cover version of "Yesterday and Today," some examples of which are worth some $15,000, and the soundtrack LP of "The Caine Mutiny," worth about the same. Also interesting is a laser turntable that reads LPs with laser beams, manufactured in Japan by the ELP Corporation. Limited production has not brought the price below $10,000 yet, but in the future, who knows? Zoid z9design.com

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>I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. >I never play them anymore, and they’re taking >up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool >stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the >rest. They are not even worth the time to sell >them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks >an LP. Anybody still play them?

  Got ‘em, play ‘em, enjoy the hell out of the fact they ain’t compressed to shit. Texas Pete

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There are alot of us who would be interested in buying those old albums you have.  Post a list or something.   dave

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It’s not even so much the sound of vinyl…I like it, but that can be argued til we’re all sick of hearing it.  I just like coming home with a new record.  Opening up the sleeve, slapping it on the turntable, then sitting back and really listening while I’m reading the liner notes and looking at all the BIG pictures. I find that with CDs, I pop one in and then walk away from the stereo.  Vinyl is just more personal…it’s active listening.  You have to be there to flip the record, etc. Also, I agree with whoever mentioned the fact that ALL the so called remastered stuff on CD sounds like hell.  The early stuff has harsh and brittle and the latest stuff (last 10 years or so) has all gotten wrapped up in the "who’s the loudest" game.  I’m so sick of all of this over compressed shit.  It makes me so crazy.  Literally.  I get such a headache trying to listen to too many CDs in a row. For the record, I’ve got about 1500 records…and growing.   A note to all of you out there…continue to sell your vinyl.  Buy CDs….I’ll happily pickup what you dump at the local Salvation Army’s for $1 ea.  Today for instance, I grabbed 3 Dixie Dregs records, 2 Al Dimeola’s, a couple of classical records and an Aretha Franklin. Thanks! later, m

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Maybe you should keep ‘em for legal / moral reasons as much as for nostalgia. If you digitize your songs for the car or for the mp3 player, or if you d-l some of your songs from the net, you can still say you *bought an original*, and can prove it should the RIAA come a-knockin’.  At 75 LPs a cubic foot, it’s probably not a huge investment in space.  Point that out to your kids when they say it doesn’t hurt anyone to burn the latest White Stripes or Radiohead album off kazaa. —-M.B.

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I’ve been slowly converting them to CD.  At first, I was doing the ‘ripping thing’ to MP3’s, but, was having trouble with intros, soft passages, and live records that had no real silent spaces in them. Got my hands on an AIWA CD Burner, has analog inputs (and digital inputs for my DAT) and I just sit there and click the ‘track increment’ button when I want the track number to change. It’s a slow, tedious process, but, it does it in real time, and when the smoke clears, I can fire up my Be Bop Deluxe Records, er, CD’s again!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m thinkin’ of dumpin’ the whole lot of them. > I never play them anymore, and they’re taking > up too much room. I think I’ll just keep the cool > stuff(hendrix, beatles, stones, etc) and sell the > rest. They are not even worth the time to sell > them on e-bay. Prices are only a couple bucks > an LP. Anybody still play them? > BigUnit

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If you love blues, like I do, there is a lot of good stuff out there that will never make it to CD. So I have to listen to albums guite a bit. As I said in an earlier post, that’s how I learned to play guitar, albums. It’s much easier to play along to cds though. Having the ability to play short sections of a song over and over helps also. I think jazz in particular sounds best on cd. One thing about vinyl I like , is that moment before a song starts where you can hear that the tape is rolling.

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> Ditto.  I think I have about 500.  My next-door neighbor has > thousands.  Whenever I’m looking for a copy of a song that the band > has decided to work up, I hit the next door vinyl library, and find > the cut I’m looking for most of the time.

I don’t suppose s/he has _The Road Goes Ever On_ by Mountain?  I’ve been looking for that for almost 3 decades.  It was available on CD for a while, but went away before I found out.  I’d love to get a tape until it comes out on CD again…  I’d happily pay for it getting it copied.

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