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> I believe the " I love Barney Song" is responsible for hundreds of deaths, > don’t play it backwards whatever you do.
** the "I Love Barney Song" is a clear violation of the Geneva Convention. — Rich, AG6K, 805 386 3734, www.vcnet.com/measures remove ^ from e-mail address
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It’s better than being forced to listen to Billy Graham or Jimmy Swaggarts sermons
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> U.S. Tortures Iraqi POWs With Heavy Metal > LONDON, May 21 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Creative even in > torture techniques, U.S. soldiers interrogating Iraqi Prisoners of War > (POWs) have resorted to heavy metal music and American children’s > popular programs to break the will of the prisoners.
Damn, and here I have been paying for tickets to see Iron Maiden…….
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I believe the " I love Barney Song" is responsible for hundreds of deaths, don’t play it backwards whatever you do.
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MUHAMMAD’S EARLY TERRORIST ACTS After moving to Medina, Muhammad began to have conflict with the Jews and pagans in the area. I’ll focus on several incidents, not necessarily in chronological order, that illustrate Muhammad as a terrorist. The first terrorist incident involves Muhammad’s command to his followers to "kill any Jew that comes under your power". From Guillaume, op cit, page 369: "The apostle said, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power." Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, ‘You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?’ Muhayyisa answered, ‘Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.’" END OF QUOTE This story is also supported in the Sunan of Abu Dawud, Book 19, Number 2996: Narrated Muhayyisah: The Apostle of Allah said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. He had close relations with them. He then killed him. At that time Huwayyisah (brother of Muhayyisah) had not embraced Islam. He was older than Muhayyisah. When he killed him, Huwayyisah beat him and said: O enemy of Allah, I swear by Allah, you have a good deal of fat in your belly from his property. END OF QUOTE This murder was committed upon Muhammad’s command. Note that this Muslim murderer would have killed a family member at the drop of a hat. Muhammad was no better than a bigoted criminal boss, ordering his men to wantonly murder Jewish people. Hitler did this. And, this is what Serbs are doing to the Kosovan Muslims. Muhammad’s command to murder Jews puts him in the same category as Milosovic, Hitler, and others who have persecuted Jews throughout history. A quote from an Islamic scholar – Wensinck writes in his, "Muhammad and the Jews of Medina" [2], page 113: "It is remarkable that tradition attributes Muhammad’s most cruel acts to divine order, namely the siege of Qaynuqa, the murder of Kab, and he attack upon Qurayzah. Allah’s conscience seems to be more elastic than that of his creatures."….. Ibn Ishaq and al- Waqidi report that the prophet said the morning after the murder (of Kab Ashraf), "Kill any Jew you can lay your hands on.". This incident is also documented in Tabari’s History [3], page 97 of volume 7. This shows that Muhammad had unsuspecting people, those who even had good relations with Muslims, murdered in cold blood because they were Jewish. There was no justification to murder these Jews other than they were not Muhammad’s followers. These actions were the work of Muhammad’s terrorists committing murder. ——- The second terrorist incident involves another one of Muhammad’s requests: this one for his men to murder an old Jewish man named Abu Afak. Abu Afak was 120 years. Abu Afak had urged his fellow Medinans to question Muhammad. From Guillaume, op cit., page 675: SALIM B. UMAYR’S EXPEDITION TO KILL ABU AFAK Abu Afak was one of the B. Amr b. Auf of the B. Ubayda clan. He showed his disaffection when the apostle killed al-Harith b. Suwayd b. Samit and said: "Long have I lived but never have I seen An assembly or collection of people More faithful to their undertaking And their allies when called upon Than the sons of Qayla when they assembled, Men who overthrew mountains and never submitted, A rider who came to them split them in two (saying) "Permitted", "Forbidden", of all sorts of things. Had you believed in glory or kingship You would have followed Tubba [NOTE: the Tubba was a ruler from Yemen who invaded that part of what is present Saudi Arabia: the Qaylites resisted him] The apostle said, "Who will deal with this rascal for me?" Whereupon Salim b. Umayr, brother of B. Amr b. Auf, one of the "weepers", went forth and killed him. Umama b. Muzayriya said concerning that: You gave the lie to God’s religion and the man Ahmad! [Muhammad] By him who was your father, evil is the son he produced! A "hanif" gave you a thrust in the night saying "Take that Abu Afak in spite of your age!" Though I knew whether it was man or jinn Who slew you in the dead of night (I would say naught). END OF QUOTE Additional information is found in the Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, (Book of the Major Classes) by Ibn Sa’d, Volume 2, [4], page 32: Then occurred the "sariyyah" [raid] of Salim Ibn Umayr al-Amri against Abu Afak, the Jew, in [the month of] Shawwal in the beginning of the twentieth month from the hijrah [immigration from Mecca to Medina in 622 AD], of the Apostle of Allah. Abu Afak, was from Banu Amr Ibn Awf, and was an old man who had attained the age of one hundred and twenty years. He was a Jew, and used to instigate the people against the Apostle of Allah, and composed (satirical) verses [about Muhammad]. Salim Ibn Umayr who was one of the great weepers and who had participated in Badr, said, "I take a vow that I shall either kill Abu Afak or die before him. He waited for an opportunity until a hot night came, and Abu Afak slept in an open place. Salim Ibn Umayr knew it, so he placed the sword on his liver and pressed it till it reached his bed. The enemy of Allah screamed and the people who were his followers, rushed to him, took him to his house and interred him. END OF QUOTE From a contemporary Muslim scholar – Ali Dashti’s "23 Years: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad", [5], page 100: "Abu Afak, a man of great age (reputedly 120 years) was killed because he had lampooned Mohammad. The deed was done by Salem b. Omayr at the behest of the Prophet, who had asked, "Who will deal with this rascal for me?" The killing of such an old man moved a poetess, Asma b. Marwan, to compose disrespectful verses about the Prophet, and she too was assassinated." Prior to listing all of the assassinations Muhammad had ordered, Ali Dashti writes on page 97: "Thus Islam was gradually transformed from a purely spiritual mission into a militant and punitive organization whose progress depended on booty from raids and revenue from the zakat tax." REVIEW Here another man was murdered upon Muhammad’s command. This man was 120 years old. He was no physical threat to Muhammad and he did not urge people to commit violent acts against Muhammad or the Muslims. There was no discussion with Jewish leaders, there was no dialogue with Abu Afak; it was just an outright murder of another one of Muhammad’s critics. Abu Afak urged the people who lived in Medina to doubt and leave Muhammad. Abu Afak found that Muhammad’s sayings were strange and dictatorial. He chided the Arabs that put their faith in Muhammad. Muhammad heard of this and viewed the 120 year old man as a threat to his credibility, not to his life. Nowhere does it say that Abu Afak urged his fellow Arabs to attack or harm Muhammad. Yet for speaking his mind, for the benefit of his friends, this man was murdered by Muhammad. The last statement in Umama b. Muzayriya’s verse reveals something though: "Though I knew whether it was man or jinn Who slew you in the dead of night (I would say naught)." This statement displays that the Muslims knew exactly what they were doing. They knew it was cold-blooded murder that they were committing upon Muhammad’s request. They wanted to keep it secret, they wanted to hide their evil deeds from the populace at large. That’s why Umama said he wouldn’t reveal who murdered Abu Afak. When I think of what type of people order their followers to commit murder, I only can think of organized crime bosses or corrupt political figures. Saddam Hussein comes to mind. How would an Iraqi be treated if he spoke out about Saddam? Amnesty International just reported that over 1500 political prisoners were executed in Iraq last year. Or take the Ayatollah Khomenni. His fundamentalist Islamic regime had other dissident Iranians murdered all over the world. These murderous Muslims represent exactly what Muhammad was all about. They follow Muhammad’s methodology: kill those who are a threat to your credibility and power over others. The third incident involves Muhammad’s request for his men to murder a women named Asma b. Marwan. Quoting from Guillaume, pages 675, 676. UMAYR B. ADIYY’S JOURNEY TO KILL ASMA D. MARWAN "She was of B. Umayyya b. Zayd. When Abu Afak had been killed she displayed disaffection. Abdullah b. al-Harith b. Al-Fudayl from his father said that she was married to a man of B. Khatma called Yazid b. Zayd. Blaming Islam and its followers she said: "I despise B. Malik and al-Nabit and Auf and B. al-Khazraj. You obey a stranger who is none of yours, One not of Murad or Madhhij. {1} Do you expect good from him after the killing of your chiefs Like a hungry man waiting for a cook’s broth? Is there no man of pride who would attack him by surprise And cut off the hopes of those who expect aught from him?" Hassan b. Thabit answered her: "Banu Wa’il and B. Waqif and Khatma Are inferior to B. al-Khazraj. When she called for folly woe to her in her weeping, For death is coming. She stirred up a man of glorious origin, Noble in his
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U.S. Tortures Iraqi POWs With Heavy Metal LONDON, May 21 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Creative even in torture techniques, U.S. soldiers interrogating Iraqi Prisoners of War (POWs) have resorted to heavy metal music and American children’s popular programs to break the will of the prisoners. Uncooperative Iraq prisoners are being exposed for prolonged periods to tracks by rock group Metallica and music from children’s TV programs Sesame Street and Barney in the hope of making them talk, the BBC News Online reported Tuesday, May 20. "They can’t take it. If you play it for 24 hours, your brain and body functions start to slide, your train of thought slows down and your will is broken. That’s when we come in and talk to them," boasted Sergeant Mark Hadsell, of the U.S.’s Psychological Operations Company (Psy Ops). He admitted that the aim was to break a prisoner’s resistance through sleep deprivation and playing music that was culturally offensive to them. "These people haven’t heard heavy metal," Hadsell told the Newsweek. "In training, they forced me to listen to the Barney "I Love You" song for 45 minutes. I never want to go through that again," one U.S. operative told the magazine. Rick Hoffman, vice president of the Psy Ops Veterans Association, told the BBC radio that "the use of this kind of audio-technique is rather new in interrogation. "There have been other kinds of non-lethal, non-harmful techniques, such as sleep deprivation… which leave no long-lasting effects but do have the end result of breaking down the individual’s will to resist questioning," he said. Torture However, human rights organisation, Amnesty International, charged that such tactics may constitute torture – and Anglo-American forces could be in breach of the Geneva Convention. Amnesty International told BBC News Online that at least one Iraqi captive – a civilian, later released – had reported being kept awake for up to four days by loud music. "This is an issue that seriously concerns us. If there is a prolonged period of sleep deprivation, it could well be considered torture," said an Amnesty International spokeswoman. "It is a very difficult line to draw between what constitutes discomfort and what constitutes torture – that line will vary for individuals and it would depend on each particular case," she added. Reports of U.S.-British torturing of Iraqi civilian have been rife with Amnesty confirming that at least 20 Iraqi prisoners of war complained they had been tortured by Anglo-American forces in central and southern Iraq, Amnesty researcher Said Boumedouha said Friday, May 16. "As of Wednesday we had interviewed 20 people," he said, referring to Iraq prisoners of war who said they had been tortured by Anglo-American troops in An-Nasiriyah and around Basra. When asked, the researcher insisted that torture was the correct word to use for the handling of the prisoners. After returning from Amnesty’s first fact-finding mission in Iraq since 1993, Boumedouha stressed the mistreatment included "beatings with fists, with feet, also with weapons. "In one case we are talking about electric shocks being used against a man and in others people are being beaten for the whole night and are still being kicked and their teeth broken, I think you would call that torture," he said.