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I was fairly worried about going to see Crash Worship last night, cause I remembered my state of cleanliness (i.e. not very) after the last time they came around. For the uninitiated, their shows involve a _lot_ of wine, water, chocolate syrup, milk and sweat (everyone’s), as well as fog and non-dairy creamer (you ever see what that shit does when you toss a handful on a small fire) in the air. With recent strep throat and root canal, my less-than-happy body has been manifesting its displeasure by agitating my pierces, and i was really worried about my navel (very deep and collects lots of shit) and nipples (crash worship shows tend to end naked). but i was a moderate, sensible little girl- even amdist the primal furor- and kept my bra on to preserve the nipples, and cleaned everything with antiobiotic soap as soon as i got home. the moral of the story is: as far as getting CBRs yanked out- if you have breasts then keep a bra on (god i hate them, but sometimes it is necessary) or maybe make a band-aid X for the male or flatchested among us. i probably should have lubed up with some trusty old neosporin first too. but due to carefulness (and probably the penicillin i’m on for my mouth now doesn’t hurt either), rings are happy again! yay. it’s very nice to share the beauty of body ornaments with others, and yes- i do love them and would like to show them off- but sometimes safety is worth it, when you know people will be offbalance and grabbing (or assholes and groping). love, Clare — ZOO-MUSIC GIRL devastatrix of the lands skies and fields fields and skies knotted chains on my hands lashed the wounds on my flesh -federico garcia lorca
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last summer, i was at a concert for an atlanta band-viva la diva-and i had a fairly new-4 weeks-navel pierce. well, the pit was quite hard, and i ended up taking my shirt off, and first thing when i got back in…wham! elbow to the eye, my contact was pushed around to the side of my eye, i’m in the middle of the pit (5′8" 110 lb. male-tiny boy) stumbling blind…rip!!! ripped it halfway out. but when i got my contact straight, i didn’t care. i had enough adrenalin that it just felt like getting it pierced again.so i just kept going. sorry i don’t know the true pit-pierce-rip experience yet. but with double nipple pierce, i’m gonna be careful. shiva
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>Text about moshing and protecting the nipples deleted.
belly ache deleted (ha! i fucking kill myself sometimes.) >THIS IS FUCKING ASSAULT and BATTERY!!!!
do what i do. anytime anyone is surfing anywhere near me, i swing at ‘em. hit them often enough, and they’ll stop being so eager to get on top of the crowd. >I mean, I would expect this behavior at harder shows – at Foetus several >years ago I ended up on the floor covered with broken glass. But >listening to Foetus one almost desires pain to accompany the sound, so I >had a great time picking beer bottle glass out of my legs that night.
i can believe it. i rented _hardcore vol. 2: the short films of r. kern_ (soundtrack mainly by jim thirlwell of foetus and lydia lunch) and damn near wanted something like a broken beer bottle across the face to distract me from the noise. and now the introduction… well, now that that’s out of the way, hi. i’ve been reading here for awhile, but nothing has really struck me enough to make me want to post until now. (i fucking _hate_ crowd surfing.) as far as piercings go, i currently have my left nipple done, three in my left ear lobe, 2 in the right (yes, i’m male, and yes, i’m straight. i just really don’t give a damn what anyone else thinks about me based on my appearance–if they can make a decision about me from that, then i don’t care to know them), and a labret that i just got about a month ago. also, i’m planning on getting my tongue done sometime over the summer. no tattoos as of yet, maybe someday, but piercing is what i’m into right now. –jml ps–i’ve seen several descriptions of a prince’s wand, but i’m really having trouble visualizing it. any chances of a pic anywhere?
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Grr. I hate it when losers decide they wanna be so cool and dance wildly inappropriately to music. I mean, c’mon. I’m deaf, and I have good enough taste to distinguish when I should be moshing and when I shouldn’t. I was at a concert one time in Seattle, when a crowd-surfer kicked me in the ear. I’ve got hearingaids. This bit into my ear, causing me to bleed and stuff. Then it fell out, and as I was trying to catch it, I got slammed by someone in my other ear, making that hearingaid fall out as well. I was standing at the edge of the moshpit. I dived to the floor to rescue my poor aids, and a bunch of people tripped over me. I caused a big pile-up, but I didn’t care. The only highllite of that moment were these two really beautiful, nice ladies who got down and helped me look for my hearingaids. I still kick myself that I didn’t ask for their phone numbers. 
Now, if I’m at a show, I like to get up front, so I can catch some of what they’re saying, and all the music. I have to deal with the periphery of mosh pits. I just brace myself and remain prepared for folks. One time I threw someone across the pit and into the pavement. Some of these folks don’t even notice, or seem to care. *grin*. If someone’s being especially obnoxious, I do extra things, like punch them real hard or kick them. I was at a show where these frat boy types started a mosh, when everyone else is swaying to the melody. There was this real big guy who got on my nerves. I was only about 16 at the time, but I hauled off and gave him a really gigantic kick in the ass. Folks around me clapped. I think the guy didn’t even notice, or thought it was one of his friends. If stage-divers kick me in the head, I reach up and twist their feet, or force them down. Or else I punch them in the back or stomach. Man. Upon retrospection, I’m really surprised I haven’t gotten in any fights at these shows. So hey, ardvark, you aren’t alone in hating inappropriate fucks who don’t know how to enjoy a good show. Josh/Syd. (damned anecdotal, aren’t I?) — across the floor, across the tiles | http://www.gallaudet.edu/~11jknapt |
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> Well —- Friday night I had the WORST show experience ever. I went with > Dew to see Belly – inoffensive pop band. Yes, I expected crowding, > pushing. What I did not expect was to be KICKED in the head by a crowd > surfer. KICKED in my not even a week old Conch piercing by Raelyn. > KICKED so hard it bled swelled. KICKED so hard I was dizzy and
Yep, same thing happened to me at a show once, in the eyebrow. Luckily it wasn’t pierced. It bled anyway, and a lot — as I walked out of the club, everyone stared at me with horrified expressions on their faces (it was kinda funny, really). When I finally got out to the car and could look in a mirror, I was kind of amazed myself. Thing is, that was a New Model Army show, and I fully expected moshing and crowd surfing there (not that that makes it any more pleasant). But you’re right, Belly is not a band you mosh to. Neither are the Connells or Toad the Wet Sprocket, but people insist on doing it anyway. I think it’s a particular problem in the DC area, though — I’ve heard from friends in other parts of the country that moshing at mellower shows is unheard of. Maybe all the alternative kids should get pierced and have one harrowing moshpit experience each. I’ve a feeling they’d calm down considerably afterwards… –Mark http://cdinet.com/Mark/Home.html
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>Well —- Friday night I had the WORST show experience ever. I went with >Dew to see Belly – inoffensive pop band. Yes, I expected crowding,
Yes, but we like them anyway… >pushing. What I did not expect was to be KICKED in the head by a crowd >surfer. KICKED in my not even a week old Conch piercing by Raelyn.
Wow, I didn’t think Raelyn was the type to crowd-surf… [description of just how bad poor ardvark got kicked deleted, but it's not a pretty story...] >THIS IS FUCKING ASSAULT and BATTERY!!!!
I agree – I had this happen to me at a Mighty Mighty Bosstones concert a few years back. It was at Harpos in Detroit (the place of the 99 cent beer pitchers that never get washed – yuck!). The stage there is somewhat high up, but that didn’t stop people from climbing up to it and jumping off. Not just jumping off, jumping off, **legs flailing**. I ended up having a guy basically jump-kick me in the head as he landed in the crowd. I was not happy… >We had to duck every 15 seconds to let a drunken teenage male surfer pass >over our heads. And they all thought they were so fucking hot – oof – I >just kicked a bunch of people in the head – aren’t I special.
Yeah, kate and I saw this when we saw (surprise, surprise) Belly… I told her to expect bodies to be flying all around (it was an all-ages show). She doubted me, but the Dead Milkmen got it right (well, almost) – "You’ll Mosh to Anything" – Mike, who still likes all-ages shows better than the stuffy ‘ol 21-and-over shows… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My only recompense was watching them throw-up into the trashcans afterwards. >I mean, I would expect this behavior at harder shows – at Foetus several >years ago I ended up on the floor covered with broken glass. But >listening to Foetus one almost desires pain to accompany the sound, so I >had a great time picking beer bottle glass out of my legs that night. >Hard to believe I’ve been going to shows since before stage diving and >crowd surfing was invented…"In my day, we just thrashed around a >bit…and we had to climb 2 miles up hill in the snow to do it and we >liked it!" >Ardvark >Anne Greenblatt >Piercing FAQ Manager for rec.arts.bodyart >Proprietor – Piercing Exquisite, Richmond, Va.
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someone’s being especially obnoxious, I do extra things, like punch them real hard or kick them. Maybe I’m petty.. but, sense it’s usually the same people coming over.. I just untie, then pull off their shoes… might take a couple times, but…. they never find them again. fights at these shows. So hey, ardvark, you aren’t alone in hating inappropriate fucks who don’t know how to enjoy a good show. Count me in, too…. oh yah.. something on topic.. uhhh.. never had a problem getting rings pulled on, myself.. Darrell
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>it’s a particular problem in the DC area, though — I’ve heard from >friends in other parts of the country that moshing at mellower shows is >unheard of.
You must hear wrong. Here in Boston, it’s just as ridiculous. The only shows that I can remember that I’ve been to lately that *haven’t* had moshing were Tori Amos and Sarah Mclachlan… The dorks around here even mosh to DJs…. I mean I can see the energy with a live band playing in front of you, but to a record? I’ve been in some clubs where being anywhere near the mosh pit could be life threatening. Once a 250-pound frat asshole decides to have 5 shots of vodka and get into the pit (which always seems to happen circa 1am…), I stay as far away as possible… — Jason Bilsky + Having a daith means never + at concerts again.
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>> surfer. KICKED in my not even a week old Conch piercing by Raelyn. >Yep, same thing happened to me at a show once, in the eyebrow. >I’ve heard from >friends in other parts of the country that moshing at mellower shows is >unheard of.
Your friends obviously aren’t from Houston! they’ll mosh to ANYTHING here! if you have to pay more than 6 dollars to get in the door, gaurenteed there will be a pit! mosh pits used to be a lot of fun, where people would pick you up if you managed to fall. lately it seems people just want to get drunk and go legally assault someone at random. thrill… i think i want my 6 bucks back. Chris p.s. The PA healed wonderfully. To upsize or not to upsize.. that is the question…
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> >THIS IS FUCKING ASSAULT and BATTERY!!!! > do what i do. anytime anyone is surfing anywhere near me, i swing at > ‘em. hit them often enough, and they’ll stop being so eager to get on > top of the crowd.
I did, and the Barrier Guard snapped at me about it…I’m not allowed to DEFEND MYSELF. > ps–i’ve seen several descriptions of a prince’s wand, but i’m really > having trouble visualizing it. any chances of a pic anywhere?
On its way to Glider for the BME…
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You need to be Mosh Smart enough to know not to get involved in a non-mosher mosh pit. What I mean is if you go to a place where people are moshing to any song that comes on (even non-mosh tunes) then those people aren’t true mosher and don’t understand the concept of moshing. My take on the ‘concept of moshing’ is as follows: Fuck shit up! Nothing personal. Fuck Shit Up! Pick shit up after fucking it up! Fuck Shit Up. When your in a wannabe mosh pit people can’t figure out that Nothing Personal part.. They start seeking people out and then the personal cheap shots come…Followed by fights. If you wanna mosh learn from the true moshers how it is done then step in and expect to Fucked up…and expect to Fuck Shit up… And if someone is taking it personally work them out or step out.
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: Fuck shit up! Nothing personal. Fuck Shit Up! Pick shit up after : fucking it up! : Fuck Shit Up. "fuck shit up"? nah, man. stupid. a real mosh pit is where people are just slamming into each other, you know, feeling the music, feeling the bodies slam into each other, feeling the pain.. it’s like a tribal ritual or something. connects all of you folks.. i’ve had the wind slammed out of me by folks before, and grinned as he gave me a hand up from the floor.. there was this, y’know, bond in our eyes. yeah, it’s even erotic, too, the whole pit experience, if it’s good. "see the bodies on the naked, the low damp ground.. in the violet hour to the violent sound.." : When your in a wannabe mosh pit people can’t figure out that Nothing : Personal part.. They start seeking people out and then the personal cheap : shots come…Followed by fights. A wannabe mosh pit tries to hurt other people, then acts surprised when someone hurts them back, and a fight breaks out. It’s real stupid. At a school concert, this guy I know got slammed to the ground by someone. When he got up, the other fellow had disappeared. He asked me where the bloke was; i refused to point him out until he’d cooled down. then i told him who, shrugged, and said "it was nothin’.." but before i had finished my sentence, he charged for the guy. we were all like holding him to the ground until security came.. he fought his way across the whole dance floor, until they dragged him out of the room. now the guy just comes up to me and asked me to testify for him in court. i told him to fuck off. people just don’t understand pits. : If you wanna mosh learn from the true moshers how it is done then step in : and expect to Fucked up…and expect to Fuck Shit up… And if someone is : taking it personally work them out or step out. Josh/Syd. — across the floor, across the tiles | http://www.gallaudet.edu/~11jknapt |
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: > >THIS IS FUCKING ASSAULT and BATTERY!!!! : > > : > do what i do. anytime anyone is surfing anywhere near me, i swing at : > ‘em. hit them often enough, and they’ll stop being so eager to get on : > top of the crowd. : I did, and the Barrier Guard snapped at me about it…I’m not allowed to : DEFEND MYSELF. My friend showed me a ring that he had. Basically, it was like a talon. You could keep it rotated inside your hand, but then again, you could rotate the talon so it’s on the outside. Nice shredding potential here. Or just imbed razor blades into your hat. Anyone attempting to pass their body over your head will feel the razor bite.. (and the shriek will subside..) *grin*. ObBodMod: How about surgically implanting sharp horns into your head? Ram people when you’re ticked off, look like the devil on stylishly good days. Josh/Syd. — across the floor, across the tiles | http://www.gallaudet.edu/~11jknapt |
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> You need to be Mosh Smart enough to know not to get involved in a > non-mosher mosh pit. What I mean is if you go to a place where people are
Hey – my tastes run from Cocteau’s and Rave to Foetus and NoMeansNo…I mean, I did the punk thing when I was 13, complete with Penis Landscape. The fact that the band in question is on the poppy side… > If you wanna mosh learn from the true moshers how it is done then step in > and expect to Fucked up…and expect to Fuck Shit up… And if someone is > taking it personally work them out or step out.
I went to see and hear a band, not duck every 15 seconds. I have a right to be in the front row and not get injured.
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> You need to be Mosh Smart enough to know not to get involved in a > non-mosher mosh pit. What I mean is if you go to a place where people are > moshing to any song that comes on (even non-mosh tunes) then those people > aren’t true mosher and don’t understand the concept of moshing. My take > on the ‘concept of moshing’ is as follows: > When your in a wannabe mosh pit people can’t figure out that Nothing > If you wanna mosh learn from the true moshers how it is done then step in
God I hate it when all these people use that irratating phrase "mosh"! It didn’t come from heavy metal…It started in PUNK!!! And all the heavy metalers used to make fun of it! Now they adopt a lot of the PUNK culture and act like they started it! Just like how THEY were the first to discover just about anything!!!! ITS CALLED SLAMMING!!!!!!! That is how it started!!!!!! Got it?
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<snipped from all previuos context just for wind up value> [SMIRK] : mean, I did the punk thing when I was 13, complete with Penis Landscape. I had mine lasdscaped aswell, with a split level effect and a path and waterfall and everything, didnt know it was punk though. Made a bomb charging tourists to walk through it! (Total humour value should be taken from this post and nothing else, ohhh alright then if you must!!.) — LUV & HUGS & having cake _and_ eating it ! / dangerous than the worst
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> : mean, I did the punk thing when I was 13, complete with Penis Landscape. > I had mine lasdscaped aswell, with a split level effect and a > path and …
a path a path! — Zaphod bring us… a shrubbery!
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: > You need to be Mosh Smart enough to know not to get involved in a : > non-mosher mosh pit. What I mean is if you go to a place where people are : > moshing to any song that comes on (even non-mosh tunes) then those people : > aren’t true mosher and don’t understand the concept of moshing. My take : God I hate it when all these people use that irratating phrase "mosh"! : It didn’t come from heavy metal…It started in PUNK!!! : And all the heavy metalers used to make fun of it! : Now they adopt a lot of the PUNK culture and act like they started it! : Just like how THEY were the first to discover just about anything!!!! : ITS CALLED SLAMMING!!!!!!! : That is how it started!!!!!! : Got it? And if you want to go really, really far back, it used to be called pogo-ing, because people would jump up and down. Trends change, no? Josh/Syd. — across the floor, across the tiles | http://www.gallaudet.edu/~11jknapt |
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> > : mean, I did the punk thing when I was 13, complete with Penis Landscape. > I had mine lasdscaped aswell, with a split level effect and a > path and …
Too bad I didn’t think to PIERCE IT…
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IS>: > You need to be Mosh Smart enough to know not to get involved in a IS>: > non-mosher mosh pit. What I mean is if you go to a place where people a IS>: > moshing to any song that comes on (even non-mosh tunes) then those peopl IS>: > aren’t true mosher and don’t understand the concept of moshing. My take IS>: God I hate it when all these people use that irratating phrase "mosh"! IS>: It didn’t come from heavy metal…It started in PUNK!!! IS>: And all the heavy metalers used to make fun of it! IS>: Now they adopt a lot of the PUNK culture and act like they started it! IS>: Just like how THEY were the first to discover just about anything!!!! IS>: ITS CALLED SLAMMING!!!!!!! IS>: That is how it started!!!!!! IS>: Got it? IS>And if you want to go really, really far back, it used to be called IS>pogo-ing, because people would jump up and down. IS>Trends change, no? IS>Josh/Syd. …and if you go really far back, we listened to the music. Trends do change. <although I’ll admit to jumping up and down when I saw Hendrix at the Hollywood Bowl>…. Nursie <<<I can’t fit a bodyart idea into this one, other than "some people appear to be willing to do ANYTHING to get an endorphin buzz"…>>> — Cyberspace with an EDGE!
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[On moshing, slamming and other trends...] >…and if you go really far back, we listened to the music. Trends do >change. <although I’ll admit to jumping up and down when I saw Hendrix >at the Hollywood Bowl>…. ><<<I can’t fit a bodyart idea into this one, other than "some people >appear to be willing to do ANYTHING to get an endorphin buzz"…>>>
I can fit it into a bodyart idea! How about: <although I’ll admit to jumping up and down when I saw Hendrix at the Hollywood Bowl> and gee, those were the days…remember Janis Joplin and her tattoos??? —
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They are illustrated in the Wildcat catalogue – for address, see the FAQ. Silver Anchor also make them – haven’t seen their catalogue though. Ardvark said she has some pix taken recently. Dave. | those of the University" G4UGT | | But I wouldn’t mind betting they’ve | someone working on that already!