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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > i agree, and there isn’t… that’s why death metal sucks, musically… of > course, it’s a technicians dream; they are obviously talented players; but, > it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with absolutely NO > melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it; > basically, the only good purpose, as far as what a friend told me, is that > it’s good to lift weights to it or something like that, because it gets you > pissed off, and you try harder; in other words, he was telling me that the > music made him voilent!…
and what kind of music do you listen to? — Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. http://members.tripod.com/~Destroyer_1348974574/index.html —Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.—
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i listen to old progressive and other shit. some bands: king crim (only 1st and second phase), ELP, thin lizzy, yes, procol, ten years after, hendrix, dead, dylan, old rush, etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i agree, and there isn’t… that’s why death metal sucks, > musically… of > course, it’s a technicians dream; they are obviously talented players; > but, > it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with > absolutely NO > melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it; > basically, the only good purpose, as far as what a friend told me, is > that > it’s good to lift weights to it or something like that, because it > gets you > pissed off, and you try harder; in other words, he was telling me that > the > music made him voilent!… > and what kind of music do you listen to? > — > Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. > http://members.tripod.com/~Destroyer_1348974574/index.html > —Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.—
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > yes, but like, i think that Emporer are much better songwriters then > corpse. im sorry, for i do admit that i was generalising and was >refering > to american death metal acts… Emporer actually has a melody to >their > songs, and the lyrics take thought. corpse is just noise, contrived, >no > thought whatsoever. no imagery, no creativity… >one statement: >listen to "from skin to liquid" , "i will kill you" from gallery of >siucide – c.c.
I agree that song from skin to liquid KICKS ASS!!!
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<<listen to "from skin to liquid" , "i will kill you" from gallery of siucide – c.c.>> Im borrowing Gallery from a friend, and Skin To Liquid is definitly one of my fave metal songs ever– i’ve always loved insturmentals. -Andrew. http://members.aol.com/marduk213/index.html (Acid Bath.) "..the lines that define begin to gray and fade now…"
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > yes, but like, i think that Emporer are much better songwriters then > corpse. im sorry, for i do admit that i was generalising and was refering > to american death metal acts… Emporer actually has a melody to their > songs, and the lyrics take thought. corpse is just noise, contrived, no > thought whatsoever. no imagery, no creativity…
one statement: listen to "from skin to liquid" , "i will kill you" from gallery of siucide – c.c. — Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. http://members.tripod.com/~Destroyer_1348974574/index.html —Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.—
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That is some seriously evil stuff. Sorry, I just have to say that whoever listens to that is sick in the head and needs help.
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>Nope your wrong there bub, first off im Black not white and second to >shock my mommy I simply have to get dressed in the morning with my >green braids and Vestal Masturbation Cradle Of Filth tshirt and >express my concepts about life to her…not sing a non-harmful corpse >song about cumming blood. Of course if I really wanted to shock her, >I could always drop a toaster in her bath water! But im doing just >fine right now without going to measures of that nature! 
Wouldn’t it be just as funny if she kicked you out of the house? Chip McDonald ]]] "Try to be reasonable whenever possible" ]]] http://www.mindspring.com/~chipm/chip.htm ]]] I teach guitar – check out http://www.mindspring.com/~chipm/lessons.htm ]]] Musician, voracious reader, overly contemplative thinker, punching bag for fate. ]]] "People think I’m in my own world; that’s ok, they know me there" – J. Hodgson
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yes, but your telling me that there is melody, there are beautiful parts? i would have to say that you are difinately intellectualy contrived if that is the case. it’s not some philisophical fact that all music is good, just depends on the listener. you need to see reality for what it is: some music sucks, and is completely horrible, and there is no defense for the label when justified… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You really think so? Go and tell that to John Cage, Brian Eno, or John Zorn. > I would like to know if there is a school that I can go to so that I can > also have the credibility (and or ability) to tell people if what they do is > music or not. Just rember they said the same thing to Charlie Parker, Miles > Davis, and Elvis. Callling a form of music "Not Musc" is basicly related to > fear of something new that you can’t understand. > Howard Ulayte > > it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with absolutely NO > > melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it. > Playing devil’s advocate, I say… > Define "music". > Curious, > ST
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> least it is ‘real’ music- unlike all this plastic processed top 40 shite
like > backstreet girls… In all, genuine honestly, I’d rather listen to the Spice Girls than Slayer. And I’m no Spice Girls fan. — Mark Zedaker ‘Users amaze accursed skill.’
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Well, it is a question suited to the philosophy of music theory. Whilst any form of rhythm or arrhythmic sound could qualify as music (and I have no doubt the proponents of this style would classify their creation as music) one would have to question what they are saying about the world. It is quite a nihilistic view. (please excuse this as a personal view. I am merely adding a perspective) I remember when my parents generation thought that Alice Cooper was quite extreme and his music was ‘not’ music. I found him humorous and enjoyed the jokes he made and the provocativeness of the lyrics (especially as his dress and presentation made my parents somewhat uncomfortable). I wasn’t and still am not of the opinion that he wanted us to see the world as a corrupt corpse. There is and was too much humour and self-mocking. With the lyrics I have seen of this group, it worries me only in as much as there appears to be no humour, as opposed to rather than cynicism, sarcasm and violent imagery (I have only what I have read to go on, I’ve have neither seen nor heard the group). I’m not of the belief that songs in themselves create or manufacture violence or self-destruction. They feed into those emotional states and are therefore sought out by people who feel that way. A very close, professionally successful psychologist friend, when hearing "Mother" by Pink Floyd, when it was first released, felt the song ’spoke’ to him – as these songs speak to others. If I had children who listened to these songs I would be concerned if they ’spoke’ to them, rather than that they found them as means to provide a way of ’shocking’ their parents, assisted them to individuate and where operating as phases of rebellion. Should they have a long term interest (and there was no humorous aspect) this would be more deeply concerning. END OF SOAP BOX Patrick (all similarly respectful opinions welcome) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >You really think so? Go and tell that to John Cage, Brian Eno, or John Zorn. >I would like to know if there is a school that I can go to so that I can >also have the credibility (and or ability) to tell people if what they do is >music or not. Just rember they said the same thing to Charlie Parker, Miles >Davis, and Elvis. Callling a form of music "Not Musc" is basicly related to >fear of something new that you can’t understand. >Howard Ulayte > > it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with absolutely NO > > melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it. > Playing devil’s advocate, I say… > Define "music". > Curious, > ST
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yes, but like, i think that Emporer are much better songwriters then corpse. im sorry, for i do admit that i was generalising and was refering to american death metal acts… Emporer actually has a melody to their songs, and the lyrics take thought. corpse is just noise, contrived, no thought whatsoever. no imagery, no creativity… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Have you EVER heard material from european death-metal acts?? You’ll be > pleasantly suprised how different it can be (musically..) from their > american counterparts… i think you should compare both forms of death > metal first… before signing off death-metal in general as > "non-melodious"…. > By the way, i don’t like american death-metal… > i agree, and there isn’t… that’s why death metal sucks, > musically… of course > Smelly-Sock > — > "The day I stop playing… is the day i die or when my hand > gets amputated…. whichever comes first that is…"
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Have you EVER heard material from european death-metal acts?? You’ll be pleasantly suprised how different it can be (musically..) from their american counterparts… i think you should compare both forms of death metal first… before signing off death-metal in general as "non-melodious"…. By the way, i don’t like american death-metal… > i agree, and there isn’t… that’s why death metal sucks, > musically… of course
Smelly-Sock — "The day I stop playing… is the day i die or when my hand gets amputated…. whichever comes first that is…"
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I don’t know. Ir looked more like really juvenile; just discovered puberty; "I like it because my parents hate it" kind of music to me. Given what we listened to when we were going through that stage, I expect today’s kids have to find some pretty extreme stuff to aggrevate their parents. ;-D – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > That is some seriously evil stuff. Sorry, I just have to say that whoever > listens to that is sick in the head and needs help.
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Sounds like a wonderful song. Thanks for posting it so obviously in your title. Jordan
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: yes, but like, i think that Emporer are much better songwriters then : corpse. im sorry, for i do admit that i was generalising and was refering : to american death metal acts… Emporer actually has a melody to their : songs, and the lyrics take thought. corpse is just noise, contrived, no : thought whatsoever. no imagery, no creativity… Ever hear of a guy called Trey Azagthoth? Listen to some Morbid Angel and tell me if USA metal bands (I don’t like the term "American", I’m American but not from the USA 
have no melody. And if my memory doesn’t fail me, the songs on "The Bleeding" are tons better melody-wise than lots of European acts. TO say "European metal bands are more/less <insert trait here> than USA bands" is jumping into the generalization wagon again. Anyway, the problem with metal bands is skating on the edge between music and noise, and most of the bands cross the line. A few stay just in the line and THOSE are great bands, spawning a lot of copycats that crossthe line and swear the sound "just" like XXX or YYY or ZZZ band. Just my two cents. — Javier Gonzalez Nicolini Ingenieria Civil en Computacion – Universidad de Chile "Ley de Murphy: Todo lo que puede salir mal sald Signature: Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >: yes, but like, i think that Emporer are much better songwriters then >: corpse. im sorry, for i do admit that i was generalising and was refering >: to american death metal acts… Emporer actually has a melody to their >: songs, and the lyrics take thought. corpse is just noise, contrived, no >: thought whatsoever. no imagery, no creativity… >Ever hear of a guy called Trey Azagthoth? Listen to some Morbid Angel and >tell me if USA metal bands (I don’t like the term "American", I’m American >but not from the USA have no melody. And if my memory doesn’t fail me, >the songs on "The Bleeding" are tons better melody-wise than lots of >European acts. TO say "European metal bands are more/less <insert trait here> >than USA bands" is jumping into the generalization wagon again. >Anyway, the problem with metal bands is skating on the edge between music >and noise, and most of the bands cross the line. A few stay just in the line >and THOSE are great bands, spawning a lot of copycats that crossthe line >and swear the sound "just" like XXX or YYY or ZZZ band. >Just my two cents. >– > Javier Gonzalez Nicolini > Ingenieria Civil en Computacion – Universidad de Chile > "Ley de Murphy: Todo lo que puede salir mal sald > Signature: Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
I dunno as far as USA death metal goes, im for cannibal corpse before Chris got fired and formed Six Feet Under, now I just listen to mostly Cradle Of Filth. Fucking gothics vamps who can play the black metal better than most and has a singer sounds like a spawn of a hell vampire unchained, Dani Filth’s lyrics are so deep, really gothic vampire poetry, enough to fill a good poem book. COF are a good change from the normal run of the mill black/death metal, some of COF songs are almost soundtracks to a horror movie. These guys are so talented its scary, almost unhuman. They also have cool tshirts designs that really has a meaning behind them, instead of let’s say Corpse Tomb Of Mulilated shirt (Two dead corpses eatting one another out) which is just their to shock people at the mall . Im not dissing corpse since im the guy that started this whole long thread about them by posting their tabs, but I just have to step in and say Cradle Of FIlth are better than Emporer even though both bands are very talented, but Emporer is overated and Cradle Of Filth are underated! 
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You really think so? Go and tell that to John Cage, Brian Eno, or John Zorn. I would like to know if there is a school that I can go to so that I can also have the credibility (and or ability) to tell people if what they do is music or not. Just rember they said the same thing to Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, and Elvis. Callling a form of music "Not Musc" is basicly related to fear of something new that you can’t understand. Howard Ulayte – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with absolutely NO > melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it. > Playing devil’s advocate, I say… > Define "music". > Curious, > ST
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> it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with absolutely NO > melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it.
Playing devil’s advocate, I say… Define "music". Curious, ST
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> Why the hell would anyone want to play a song with lyrics like that ? > I bet there ain’t too much harmony there either. > Sounds like a case of little white kids trying to shock mommy.
I dunno what the big fuss is- this song is like 7 years old? I used to like this kind of shit when I was 14/15, mostly cos it was cool to like satan when you’re that age.. I couldn’t believe that could play their instruments that fast (the drumming is incredible) and the lyrics were funny. I grew out of it eventually, but Death Metal and its variants have a huge following.. and at least it is ‘real’ music- unlike all this plastic processed top 40 shite like backstreet girls…
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Hey, thanks a lot, Jolly! That’s great! It really got my attention! I’m just shocked and speechless! You have no idea how much I admire you now! Wow! You are really someone special.
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i agree, and there isn’t… that’s why death metal sucks, musically… of course, it’s a technicians dream; they are obviously talented players; but, it’s not music, it’s just 50- chords-a-second, quad-bass, with absolutely NO melody… you can’t sing to it, you can’t play guitar along with it; basically, the only good purpose, as far as what a friend told me, is that it’s good to lift weights to it or something like that, because it gets you pissed off, and you try harder; in other words, he was telling me that the music made him voilent!… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Why the hell would anyone want to play a song with lyrics like that ? > I bet there ain’t too much harmony there either. > Sounds like a case of little white kids trying to shock mommy. >Hmm yea if u wanna play the song with the lyrics…..duh! >>What a load of shite. Is there any point in this ? >>>I Cum Blood >>> Swollen with liquid >>> Ready to burst >>> A load of my lymph >>> Will quench this dead body’s >>>thirst >>> One month in the grave >>> twisted and half decayed >>> She turned a putrid yellow >>> I pissed in her maggot filled >>>asshole >>> Fucking the rotting >>> My semen is bleeding >>> The smell of decay >>> Seeps from her genital cavity >>> The smell was unbearable As I unburied >>>her >>> I cum blood from my erection >>> I feel it run >>> down her throat, swallow >>> Eyes glassy and vacant >>> body dug up to play with >>> Skin greasy and naked >>> tounguing her rotted anus >>> I need a live woman >>> to fill with my fluid >>> A delicate girl, to mutilate, fuck >>>and kill >>> her body exceptional >>> she thought I was normal >>> but I wanted more >>> I came blood inside of her >>> chocking on the clot >>> gagging on the snot >>> gushing blood, from her mouth >>> bloody gel leaking out >>> Body buried in a shallow grave >>> Unmarked for none to find >>> The sickness I have left behind >>> Undetected go my crimes >>> The greatest thrill of my life >>> Violent, climax Serging serum >>> on my skin >>> Back from the dead >>> I am resurrected >>> to spew, putrefaction >>>Jolly Spamhead, >>>"I smoke 2 joints in the morning" >>>"I smoke 2 joints at night" >>>"I smoke 2 joints in the afternoon" >>>"It makes me feel alright" >>>-The Toyes
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Wow. How about a warning next time for those of us with sensitive stomachs. I almost puked while reading this. I know everybody likes different sorts of "music", but …..wow. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hmm yea if u wanna play the song with the lyrics…..duh! >What a load of shite. Is there any point in this ? >>I Cum Blood >> Swollen with liquid >> Ready to burst >> A load of my lymph >> Will quench this dead body’s >>thirst >> One month in the grave >> twisted and half decayed >> She turned a putrid yellow >> I pissed in her maggot filled >>asshole >> Fucking the rotting >> My semen is bleeding >> The smell of decay >> Seeps from her genital cavity >> The smell was unbearable As I unburied >>her >> I cum blood from my erection >> I feel it run >> down her throat, swallow >> Eyes glassy and vacant >> body dug up to play with >> Skin greasy and naked >> tounguing her rotted anus >> I need a live woman >> to fill with my fluid >> A delicate girl, to mutilate, fuck >>and kill >> her body exceptional >> she thought I was normal >> but I wanted more >> I came blood inside of her >> chocking on the clot >> gagging on the snot >> gushing blood, from her mouth >> bloody gel leaking out >> Body buried in a shallow grave >> Unmarked for none to find >> The sickness I have left behind >> Undetected go my crimes >> The greatest thrill of my life >> Violent, climax Serging serum >> on my skin >> Back from the dead >> I am resurrected >> to spew, putrefaction >>Jolly Spamhead, >>"I smoke 2 joints in the morning" >>"I smoke 2 joints at night" >>"I smoke 2 joints in the afternoon" >>"It makes me feel alright" >>-The Toyes
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Nope your wrong there bub, first off im Black not white and second to shock my mommy I simply have to get dressed in the morning with my green braids and Vestal Masturbation Cradle Of Filth tshirt and express my concepts about life to her…not sing a non-harmful corpse song about cumming blood. Of course if I really wanted to shock her, I could always drop a toaster in her bath water! But im doing just fine right now without going to measures of that nature! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Why the hell would anyone want to play a song with lyrics like that ? >Sounds like a case of little white kids trying to shock mommy. >Hmm yea if u wanna play the song with the lyrics…..duh! >>What a load of shite. Is there any point in this ? >>>I Cum Blood >>> Swollen with liquid >>> Ready to burst >>> A load of my lymph >>> Will quench this dead body’s >>>thirst >>> One month in the grave >>> twisted and half decayed >>> She turned a putrid yellow >>> I pissed in her maggot filled >>>asshole >>> Fucking the rotting >>> My semen is bleeding >>> The smell of decay >>> Seeps from her genital cavity >>> The smell was unbearable As I unburied >>>her >>> I cum blood from my erection >>> I feel it run >>> down her throat, swallow >>> Eyes glassy and vacant >>> body dug up to play with >>> Skin greasy and naked >>> tounguing her rotted anus >>> I need a live woman >>> to fill with my fluid >>> A delicate girl, to mutilate, fuck >>>and kill >>> her body exceptional >>> she thought I was normal >>> but I wanted more >>> I came blood inside of her >>> chocking on the clot >>> gagging on the snot >>> gushing blood, from her mouth >>> bloody gel leaking out >>> Body buried in a shallow grave >>> Unmarked for none to find >>> The sickness I have left behind >>> Undetected go my crimes >>> The greatest thrill of my life >>> Violent, climax Serging serum >>> on my skin >>> Back from the dead >>> I am resurrected >>> to spew, putrefaction >>>Jolly Spamhead, >>>"I smoke 2 joints in the morning" >>>"I smoke 2 joints at night" >>>"I smoke 2 joints in the afternoon" >>>"It makes me feel alright" >>>-The Toyes
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Hmm yea if u wanna play the song with the lyrics…..duh! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >What a load of shite. Is there any point in this ? >I Cum Blood > Swollen with liquid > Ready to burst > A load of my lymph > Will quench this dead body’s >thirst > One month in the grave > twisted and half decayed > She turned a putrid yellow > I pissed in her maggot filled >asshole > Fucking the rotting > My semen is bleeding > The smell of decay > Seeps from her genital cavity > The smell was unbearable As I unburied >her > I cum blood from my erection > I feel it run > down her throat, swallow > Eyes glassy and vacant > body dug up to play with > Skin greasy and naked > tounguing her rotted anus > I need a live woman > to fill with my fluid > A delicate girl, to mutilate, fuck >and kill > her body exceptional > she thought I was normal > but I wanted more > I came blood inside of her > chocking on the clot > gagging on the snot > gushing blood, from her mouth > bloody gel leaking out > Body buried in a shallow grave > Unmarked for none to find > The sickness I have left behind > Undetected go my crimes > The greatest thrill of my life > Violent, climax Serging serum > on my skin > Back from the dead > I am resurrected > to spew, putrefaction >Jolly Spamhead, >"I smoke 2 joints in the morning" >"I smoke 2 joints at night" >"I smoke 2 joints in the afternoon" >"It makes me feel alright" >-The Toyes
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Why the hell would anyone want to play a song with lyrics like that ? I bet there ain’t too much harmony there either. Sounds like a case of little white kids trying to shock mommy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hmm yea if u wanna play the song with the lyrics…..duh! >What a load of shite. Is there any point in this ? >>I Cum Blood >> Swollen with liquid >> Ready to burst >> A load of my lymph >> Will quench this dead body’s >>thirst >> One month in the grave >> twisted and half decayed >> She turned a putrid yellow >> I pissed in her maggot filled >>asshole >> Fucking the rotting >> My semen is bleeding >> The smell of decay >> Seeps from her genital cavity >> The smell was unbearable As I unburied >>her >> I cum blood from my erection >> I feel it run >> down her throat, swallow >> Eyes glassy and vacant >> body dug up to play with >> Skin greasy and naked >> tounguing her rotted anus >> I need a live woman >> to fill with my fluid >> A delicate girl, to mutilate, fuck >>and kill >> her body exceptional >> she thought I was normal >> but I wanted more >> I came blood inside of her >> chocking on the clot >> gagging on the snot >> gushing blood, from her mouth >> bloody gel leaking out >> Body buried in a shallow grave >> Unmarked for none to find >> The sickness I have left behind >> Undetected go my crimes >> The greatest thrill of my life >> Violent, climax Serging serum >> on my skin >> Back from the dead >> I am resurrected >> to spew, putrefaction >>Jolly Spamhead, >>"I smoke 2 joints in the morning" >>"I smoke 2 joints at night" >>"I smoke 2 joints in the afternoon" >>"It makes me feel alright" >>-The Toyes