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In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have in common? -Scott McKnight
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> In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air > Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, > and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: > What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have > in common? > -Scott McKnight
Roughly same city, roughly same day?
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> In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air > Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, > and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: > What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have > in common? > -Scott McKnight
WARNING! Do not answer this question! B.H.
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>> In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air > Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, > and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: > What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have > in common? > -Scott McKnight >WARNING! Do not answer this question! >B.H.
OK, I’l bite… Wht? -Scott McKnight
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air >>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, >>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: >>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have >>in common? >>-Scott McKnight >WARNING! Do not answer this question! >B.H. > OK, I’l bite… Wht? > -Scott McKnight
All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. B.H. — http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air >>>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, >>>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: >>>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have >>>in common? >>>-Scott McKnight >>WARNING! Do not answer this question! >>B.H. > OK, I’l bite… Wht? > -Scott McKnight >All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. >B.H. >– >http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/
Oh. Well. That clears things up entirely. Anyone else? -Scott McKnight
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air >>>>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, >>>>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: >>>>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have >>>>in common? >>>>-Scott McKnight >>>WARNING! Do not answer this question! >>>B.H. >> OK, I’l bite… Wht? >> -Scott McKnight >All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. >B.H. >– >http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/ >Oh. Well. That clears things up entirely. >Anyone else? >-Scott McKnight
I don’t think the guy had a point to make. He appears to be running a test in your thread. Take a look how his header info and name changed from his first post to his second post. Some people just aren’t capable of finding alt.test. So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk) Pete
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air >>>>>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, >>>>>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: >>>>>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have >>>>>in common? >>>>>-Scott McKnight >>>>WARNING! Do not answer this question! >>>>B.H. >>> OK, I’l bite… Wht? >>> -Scott McKnight >>All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. >>B.H. >>– >>http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/ >Oh. Well. That clears things up entirely. >Anyone else? >-Scott McKnight >I don’t think the guy had a point to make. He appears to be running a >test in your thread. Take a look how his header info and name changed >from his first post to his second post. Some people just aren’t >capable of finding alt.test. >So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk)
Victims of the plane crash and Lowell George died within a few hundred yards of each other. The plane crashed on the VA side of one spans the 14th street bridge. Lowell died at the Twin Bridges Marriott, pretty much a literal stones throw from the same spot. Much closer than "roughly the same city" though separated by 18 months or so (maybe 30 months?). Lowell died in the summer of ‘79 IIRC. I think the plane crash was winter of ‘80 or ‘81. The Twin Bridges Marriott has since been torn down. -Scott McKnight
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air >>>>>>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, >>>>>>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: >>>>>>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have >>>>>>in common? >>>>>>-Scott McKnight >>>>>WARNING! Do not answer this question! >>>>>B.H. >>>> OK, I’l bite… Wht? >>>> -Scott McKnight >>>All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. >>>B.H. >>>– >>>http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/ >>Oh. Well. That clears things up entirely. >>Anyone else? >>-Scott McKnight >I don’t think the guy had a point to make. He appears to be running a >test in your thread. Take a look how his header info and name changed >from his first post to his second post. Some people just aren’t >capable of finding alt.test. >So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk) >Victims of the plane crash and Lowell George died within a few hundred >yards of each other. The plane crashed on the VA side of one spans >the 14th street bridge. Lowell died at the Twin Bridges Marriott, >pretty much a literal stones throw from the same spot. Much closer >than "roughly the same city" though separated by 18 months or so >(maybe 30 months?). Lowell died in the summer of ‘79 IIRC. I think >the plane crash was winter of ‘80 or ‘81. The Twin Bridges Marriott >has since been torn down. >-Scott McKnight
I guess they couldn’t live with having had Lowell die there. ’79 sounds like what I read recently. Hard to believe it was that long ago though. Damn, that was half my lifetime. I thought I was older than that when he died. Pete
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>>>So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk) >Victims of the plane crash and Lowell George died within a few hundred >yards of each other. The plane crashed on the VA side of one spans >the 14th street bridge. Lowell died at the Twin Bridges Marriott, >pretty much a literal stones throw from the same spot. Much closer >than "roughly the same city" though separated by 18 months or so >(maybe 30 months?). Lowell died in the summer of ‘79 IIRC. I think >the plane crash was winter of ‘80 or ‘81. The Twin Bridges Marriott >has since been torn down. >-Scott McKnight >I guess they couldn’t live with having had Lowell die there.
I think it’s more like – they had a bunch of newer Marriotts within a few miles of there and this was one of the very first Marriott hotels, and as such was kind of old and run down. So they opted to raze the place. > ’79 sounds like what I read recently. Hard to believe it was that long >ago though. Damn, that was half my lifetime. I thought I was older >than that when he died.
Yeah, I was 21. I had just broken up with a girlfriend after being together for 2 years. We had listened to a lot of Little Feat together. I called her up for some reason and she was playing L.F. in the background and told me it was "in memorium." That’s how I found out and that’s how I remember the year. -Scott McKnight
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk) >>Victims of the plane crash and Lowell George died within a few hundred >>yards of each other. The plane crashed on the VA side of one spans >>the 14th street bridge. Lowell died at the Twin Bridges Marriott, >>pretty much a literal stones throw from the same spot. Much closer >>than "roughly the same city" though separated by 18 months or so >>(maybe 30 months?). Lowell died in the summer of ‘79 IIRC. I think >>the plane crash was winter of ‘80 or ‘81. The Twin Bridges Marriott >>has since been torn down. >>-Scott McKnight >I guess they couldn’t live with having had Lowell die there. >I think it’s more like – they had a bunch of newer Marriotts within a >few miles of there and this was one of the very first Marriott hotels, >and as such was kind of old and run down. So they opted to raze the >place. > ’79 sounds like what I read recently. Hard to believe it was that long >ago though. Damn, that was half my lifetime. I thought I was older >than that when he died. >Yeah, I was 21. I had just broken up with a girlfriend after being >together for 2 years. We had listened to a lot of Little Feat >together. I called her up for some reason and she was playing L.F. in >the background and told me it was "in memorium." That’s how I found >out and that’s how I remember the year. >-Scott McKnight
I don’t remember finding out by now. It’s just too long ago by now. I used to listen to "Feats Don’t Fail Me Now" a lot on the drive to work that took over an hour in a kamikaze little French car. The car had a cassette deck that I had installed under the seat, and it would play both sides of the cassette, and I had taped it on both sides. It made the drive seem a lot shorter. Pete
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I really didn’t get into Little Feat until the 80’s, although I heard them played a few times by a die hard feat fan friend, circa 79/80 I was finally hooked in the mid – late 80’s and bought all the music I could find, and started learning the trivia as practical. Seems Billy Payne played on the Doobie Brothers China Grove and their relationship with other famous people, ie Bonnie Raitt and other SoCal folks. Late 80’s I saw (and won tickets too) a small show at the Caberet in San Jose featuring Little Feat. They were doing some water testing to see how a comeback might work. The place was packed, they added Fred Tacket and Craig Fuller into the band and the show was just magic. They announced on that night the Let It Roll Album debut and the rest of course is history. People were crying to see them play it meant so much. I had a chance to catch them a few more times and actually meet them, was real nice and they are nice folks. Some of the members are on line, Paul and Fred quite a bit. Paul has given me some slide guitar setup equipment hints (hold the mxr dyna comp close to your heart) in Emails. The band has changed quite a bit, but they are still around and playing, Craig went back into the woodwork and their backup singer (gal) steps up to sing a lot. It’s changed a lot from Lowells’ style, but they are still great to hear. cheers skipp http://sonic.ucdavis.edu : I used to listen to "Feats Don’t Fail Me Now" a lot on the drive to : work that took over an hour in a kamikaze little French car. The car : had a cassette deck that I had installed under the seat, and it would : play both sides of the cassette, and I had taped it on both sides. It : made the drive seem a lot shorter. : Pete
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air >>>>>>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, >>>>>>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: >>>>>>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have >>>>>>in common? >>>>>>-Scott McKnight >>>>>WARNING! Do not answer this question! >>>>>B.H. >>>> OK, I’l bite… Wht? >>>> -Scott McKnight >>>All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. >>>B.H. >>>– >>>http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/ >>Oh. Well. That clears things up entirely. >>Anyone else? >>-Scott McKnight >I don’t think the guy had a point to make. He appears to be running a >test in your thread. Take a look how his header info and name changed >from his first post to his second post. Some people just aren’t >capable of finding alt.test. >So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk) > Victims of the plane crash and Lowell George died within a few hundred > yards of each other. The plane crashed on the VA side of one spans > the 14th street bridge. Lowell died at the Twin Bridges Marriott, > pretty much a literal stones throw from the same spot. Much closer > than "roughly the same city" though separated by 18 months or so > (maybe 30 months?). Lowell died in the summer of ‘79 IIRC. I think > the plane crash was winter of ‘80 or ‘81. The Twin Bridges Marriott > has since been torn down.
So…was it …just… the location? …. I remember the Air Florida, at school…went to my buddy’s place to watch syndicated M*A*S*H…they were showing this wreck, and I was like…hey, that’s the 14th street bridge….sucked. So re: LGs death, although I believe I was home at the time…IIRC he had just played a show at Merriwether Post in Md.? Maybe even a non-Feat show? Don’t recall exactly, but that sucked too. That’s what threw me off on the triv, because I thought I had a chance to go to that show, but I know I was at school for the AF wreck (winter, of course, icing and all being the cause)… Maryland was a huge LF fan area…much more so than Va. They were well liked in Va, but Md…they were like a super-group…for lack of a better term.
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Freebo
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>>>>>In two separate OT threads we’re talking about the time the Air > >>>>>>Florida plane crashed during takeoff from Washington National Airport, > >>>>>>and Lowell George. Here’s a trivia question: > >>>>>>What did Lowell George and the victims of the Air Florida crash have > >>>>>>in common? > >>>>>>-Scott McKnight > >>>>>WARNING! Do not answer this question! > >>>>>B.H. > >>>> OK, I’l bite… Wht? > >>>> -Scott McKnight > >>>All L.G./A.F.D. info is classified. > >>>B.H. > >>>– > >>>http://black_helicopters.home.attbi.com/ > >>Oh. Well. That clears things up entirely. > >>Anyone else? > >>-Scott McKnight > >I don’t think the guy had a point to make. He appears to be running a > >test in your thread. Take a look how his header info and name changed > >from his first post to his second post. Some people just aren’t > >capable of finding alt.test. > >So, what DO they have in common? (answer at your own risk) > Victims of the plane crash and Lowell George died within a few hundred > yards of each other. The plane crashed on the VA side of one spans > the 14th street bridge. Lowell died at the Twin Bridges Marriott, > pretty much a literal stones throw from the same spot. Much closer > than "roughly the same city" though separated by 18 months or so > (maybe 30 months?). Lowell died in the summer of ‘79 IIRC. I think > the plane crash was winter of ‘80 or ‘81. The Twin Bridges Marriott > has since been torn down. >So…was it …just… the location? ….
Yes. Both events happened at the VA side of the 14th St. Bridge. Lowell George died in ‘79. Air Florida was ‘82 (I just looked it up). >I remember the Air Florida, at school…went to my buddy’s place >to watch syndicated M*A*S*H…they were showing this wreck, and >I was like…hey, that’s the 14th street bridge….sucked. >So re: LGs death, although I believe I was home at the time…IIRC >he had just played a show at Merriwether Post in Md.? Maybe even >a non-Feat show? Don’t recall exactly, but that sucked too. That’s what >threw me off on the triv, because I thought I had a chance to go to that >show, but I know I was at school for the AF wreck (winter, of course, >icing and all being the cause)…
IIRC, Little Feat was in town for a Merriwhether show. Pretty sure Lowell died after the show but I could be wrong there. >Maryland was a huge LF fan area…much more so than Va. They were >well liked in Va, but Md…they were like a super-group…for lack of a >better term.
Hmmm, I think it was the entire DC metro area – largely due to the folks at WHFS who more or less "broke" Little Feat in DC. I was in VA and I knew plenty of hardcore fans. -Scott McKnight
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>Freebo
What about Freebo? Haven’t heard that name in years. Pete
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He used ta hang with Little Feat and Bonnie Raitt. Also Catfish Hodge(back locally) nails that Lowell George chorused guitar sound ( think "All That You Dream" intro.) that was in my mind, a Lowell George/ Live Little Feat Trademark.
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> <> >So…was it …just… the location? …. > Yes. Both events happened at the VA side of the 14th St. Bridge. > Lowell George died in ‘79. Air Florida was ‘82 (I just looked it up).
Yeah, you are right…82, based on apt I was in a the time..checks out, I wasn’t thinkin. >I remember the Air Florida, at school…went to my buddy’s place >to watch syndicated M*A*S*H…they were showing this wreck, and >I was like…hey, that’s the 14th street bridge….sucked. >So re: LGs death, although I believe I was home at the time…IIRC >he had just played a show at Merriwether Post in Md.? Maybe even >a non-Feat show? Don’t recall exactly, but that sucked too. That’s what >threw me off on the triv, because I thought I had a chance to go to that >show, but I know I was at school for the AF wreck (winter, of course, >icing and all being the cause)… > IIRC, Little Feat was in town for a Merriwhether show. Pretty sure > Lowell died after the show but I could be wrong there.
An LG show (vs Little Feat) or am I wrong? >Maryland was a huge LF fan area…much more so than Va. They were >well liked in Va, but Md…they were like a super-group…for lack of a >better term. > Hmmm, I think it was the entire DC metro area – largely due to the > folks at WHFS who more or less "broke" Little Feat in DC. I was in VA > and I knew plenty of hardcore fans.
Could have had something to do with HFS signal coverage…NoVa was mostly served by DC101 and two or so other conventional rock stations. LF did not get a lot of play, but we knew who they were, etc. In my group of vandals, in ‘79 it was still Zep, Aero, Foreigner, Meatwood Flac Cream, TYA, Stones…etc..etc..at that time. Not for long.
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>He used ta hang with Little Feat and Bonnie Raitt. Also Catfish Hodge(back >locally) nails that Lowell George chorused guitar sound ( think "All That You >Dream" intro.) that was in my mind, a Lowell George/ Live Little Feat >Trademark.
Unless my memory’s faulty, I think he played bass with Bonnie Raitt for years. Pete
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>>He used ta hang with Little Feat and Bonnie Raitt. Also Catfish Hodge(back >locally) nails that Lowell George chorused guitar sound ( think "All That You >Dream" intro.) that was in my mind, a Lowell George/ Live Little Feat >Trademark. >Unless my memory’s faulty, I think he played bass with Bonnie Raitt >for years.
Tuba too. More recently he was working at a songwriters camp in upstate NY that a friend of mine went to. As part of this he helped record demos with the campers, including my friend. The Freebo/Feat connection I make is that Bill Payne was playing with Bonnie at the same time Freebo was. For the _Centerfield_ album, I believe, maybe more. -Scott McKnight – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Pete
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>> IIRC, Little Feat was in town for a Merriwhether show. Pretty sure > Lowell died after the show but I could be wrong there. >An LG show (vs Little Feat) or am I wrong?
I thought it was LF. I could be wrong. > Hmmm, I think it was the entire DC metro area – largely due to the > folks at WHFS who more or less "broke" Little Feat in DC. I was in VA > and I knew plenty of hardcore fans. >Could have had something to do with HFS signal coverage…NoVa >was mostly served by DC101 and two or so other conventional >rock stations. LF did not get a lot of play, but we knew who they >were, etc.
Yes, I agree about the WHFS signal coverage, though I think WHFS and DC101 had roughly the same coverage – I’m sure there were plenty of DC101 fans in MD and I can assure you there were plenty of ‘HFS listeners in NoVa. -Scott McKnight >In my group of vandals, in ‘79 it was still Zep, Aero, Foreigner, Meatwood Flac >Cream, TYA, Stones…etc..etc..at that time. Not for long.
My friends were already way into punk/new wave by then. Summer of ‘79 *I* was just emerging from a sort of exile from the cutting edge of music – caused by immersion in the relationship I mentioned earlier, plus a big college (NoVaCoCo) workload and part time job. How old are you? -Scott (Fort Hunt HS class of ‘76) McKnight
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> IIRC, Little Feat was in town for a Merriwhether show. Pretty sure >> Lowell died after the show but I could be wrong there. >An LG show (vs Little Feat) or am I wrong? > I thought it was LF. I could be wrong. >> Hmmm, I think it was the entire DC metro area – largely due to the >> folks at WHFS who more or less "broke" Little Feat in DC. I was in VA >> and I knew plenty of hardcore fans. >Could have had something to do with HFS signal coverage…NoVa >was mostly served by DC101 and two or so other conventional >rock stations. LF did not get a lot of play, but we knew who they >were, etc. > Yes, I agree about the WHFS signal coverage, though I think WHFS and > DC101 had roughly the same coverage – I’m sure there were plenty of > DC101 fans in MD and I can assure you there were plenty of ‘HFS > listeners in NoVa. > -Scott McKnight >In my group of vandals, in ‘79 it was still Zep, Aero, Foreigner, Meatwood Flac >Cream, TYA, Stones…etc..etc..at that time. Not for long. > My friends were already way into punk/new wave by then. Summer of ‘79 > *I* was just emerging from a sort of exile from the cutting edge of > music – caused by immersion in the relationship I mentioned earlier, > plus a big college (NoVaCoCo) workload and part time job. > How old are you?
Oh, I am *way* younger than you. 1977. And by that time, I was into the next stuff too. Went to school in Athens, so it was obvious at that point. I remember bringing home B52s and Devo in ‘78 and having the typical stoner session listening to tunes and drinking beer…etc… My friends looked at me like I was crazy when I put the B52s on, but they came around real quick. I was also an early follower of Sex Pistols and Clash …which I turned the same folks on to…maybe late ‘77. Everybody was ready for a change, back then, whether they immediately realized it or not. BTW…DC101’s signal was much, much stronger than HFSs back then in my neck of *woods*. HFS faded, and with the drift of analog receivers, was a bit of a pain in the ass. Not that I didn’t listen, but hey. Partying being what it was…. I did some time at NoVa. Contrary to pop belief, there was an excellent selection of beautiful girls there at that time. (1979)….back to real school after the financial respite.
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>I did some time at NoVa. Contrary to pop belief, there >was an excellent selection of beautiful girls there at that >time. (1979)….back to real school after the financial >respite.
Hmm, which campus, what classes? I was taking a lot of music, plus other stuff, at Alexandria campus for a couple years, fall ‘77- summer ‘79. -Scott
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> >I did some time at NoVa. Contrary to pop belief, there >was an excellent selection of beautiful girls there at that >time. (1979)….back to real school after the financial >respite. > Hmm, which campus, what classes? I was taking a lot of music, plus > other stuff, at Alexandria campus for a couple years, fall ‘77- summer > ‘79.
Annandale. Just core, logic, accounting, philosophy something or another. Never took music classes there…just played a lot of piano, and went partially crazy trying to figure out Van Halen on acoustic. It wasn’t a party school, but there were some great babes there at the time. I get their catalog…they have some good stuff these days…price is right…I may sample.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >I did some time at NoVa. Contrary to pop belief, there > >was an excellent selection of beautiful girls there at that > >time. (1979)….back to real school after the financial > >respite. > Hmm, which campus, what classes? I was taking a lot of music, plus > other stuff, at Alexandria campus for a couple years, fall ‘77- summer > ‘79. >Annandale. Just core, logic, accounting, philosophy >something or another. >Never took music classes there…just played >a lot of piano, and went partially crazy trying >to figure out Van Halen on acoustic.
Dive bombing without a whammy bar is hell. :) >It wasn’t a party school, but there were some >great babes there at the time. >I get their catalog…they have some good stuff these >days…price is right…I may sample.
Wait, are you talking about classes? Or babes? -Scott McKnight