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> I have wired and rewired Strats more than once. Only older than 1980 models > though, and I will state unequivocally that the second tone knob is for the > middle pickup only. You would, by the way, hear it distinctly if the bridge > pickup had tone roll off, since the tone knob rolls off highs and the bridge > pickup has more highs to roll off.
Mine’s a ‘96 model made in America Standard Strat and the second tone knob definitely affects both bridge and middle pickups. Dave.
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I’ll agree with you 100% about the tone control. I have a Mexi Standard, and it doesn’t do dittly to the brige pick-up. If I want to warm the tone any, I have to include the middle pickup with the bridge pickup. I am getting a humbucker soon, just because of how crappy it sounds. Bryan
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So it ends up everyone in this thread was right even the ones that were wrong…..a first I think….lol….. — Brad "Its very important to listen, Listen and learn from other players, but also put yourself in a position where you can listen to yourself." Joe Satriani
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Where can I get some knobs that go to 11? Hehehe
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>Where can I get some knobs that go to 11? Hehehe
can’t you just make 10 louder?
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I have just recently learned to record my LP’s to CD through the computer. One of the first was Deep Purple Made in Japan. IMHO the best live recording done. Anyway your comments remind me of a great line from that recording. Ian Gillian says, "Can we have everything a little louder than everything else?"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Where can I get some knobs that go to 11? Hehehe > can’t you just make 10 louder?
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>can’t you just make 10 louder?
Hehehe
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I have wired and rewired Strats more than once. Only older than 1980 models though, and I will state unequivocally that the second tone knob is for the middle pickup only. You would, by the way, hear it distinctly if the bridge pickup had tone roll off, since the tone knob rolls off highs and the bridge pickup has more highs to roll off.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hehe, > I can’t really tell if it does anything to the bridge pick-up. > It doesn’t seem to have an effect. > The 2nd tone knob make a huge differance on the middle pick-up, and the the > same with the first tone knob on the neck pick-up. > Bryan
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The diagrams for the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s Strats on the Fender site agree with you 100% ! Bob
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have wired and rewired Strats more than once. Only older than 1980 models > though, and I will state unequivocally that the second tone knob is for the > middle pickup only. You would, by the way, hear it distinctly if the bridge > pickup had tone roll off, since the tone knob rolls off highs and the bridge > pickup has more highs to roll off. > Hehe, > I can’t really tell if it does anything to the bridge pick-up. > It doesn’t seem to have an effect. > The 2nd tone knob make a huge differance on the middle pick-up, and the > the > same with the first tone knob on the neck pick-up. > Bryan
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Hehe, I can’t really tell if it does anything to the bridge pick-up. It doesn’t seem to have an effect. The 2nd tone knob make a huge differance on the middle pick-up, and the the same with the first tone knob on the neck pick-up. Bryan
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> That is to say my 79 and 82 models. I do not have 79 of the latter 
> MS > My 79 82 USA standards certainly bear witness to this.
I thought you had 7982 of them. J.
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That is to say my 79 and 82 models. I do not have 79 of the latter MS
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The classic wiring for a Strat is as stated above. This was the way for many > decades. Indeed, the earlier models never even had a 5 way selector switch > and the inbetween sounds were had by jamming the selector switch between > positions. Later models might have had various changes but typically, there > is NO tone control on a Strat bridge pickup. My 79 82 USA standards > certainly bear witness to this. > MS > If you look at the legend on this drawing (Standard Strat), you’ll see > that > the first Tone knob controls only the neck pickup. The second Tone knob > controls BOTH the middle and bridge pickups. > http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/pdf/diagrams/ASSTRAT/SD0107400CPg4.pdf > This is a link to all of the different variations: > http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/diagrams.php > Bob > > >I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd > knob > > >for? > > >gb > > equilizer. You use it when you are using 2 pickups (either first 2 or > > bottom 2). You adjust the balance between the two pickups.
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You mean those knobs do something…..?? I just thought they looked cool….. — Brad "Its very important to listen, Listen and learn from other players, but also put yourself in a position where you can listen to yourself." Joe Satriani
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The classic wiring for a Strat is as stated above. This was the way for many decades. Indeed, the earlier models never even had a 5 way selector switch and the inbetween sounds were had by jamming the selector switch between positions. Later models might have had various changes but typically, there is NO tone control on a Strat bridge pickup. My 79 82 USA standards certainly bear witness to this. MS
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you look at the legend on this drawing (Standard Strat), you’ll see that > the first Tone knob controls only the neck pickup. The second Tone knob > controls BOTH the middle and bridge pickups. > http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/pdf/diagrams/ASSTRAT/SD0107400CPg4.pdf > This is a link to all of the different variations: > http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/diagrams.php > Bob > >I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd knob > >for? > >gb > equilizer. You use it when you are using 2 pickups (either first 2 or > bottom 2). You adjust the balance between the two pickups.
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I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd knob for? gb
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> I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd knob > for? > gb
It’s also a tone control. For the bridge and/or middle pickup, depending on how it’s wired up. The tone control next to the volume knob is for the neck pickup. Dave.
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>I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd knob >for? >gb
equilizer. You use it when you are using 2 pickups (either first 2 or bottom 2). You adjust the balance between the two pickups.
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> >I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd knob >for? >gb > equilizer. You use it when you are using 2 pickups (either first 2 or > bottom 2). You adjust the balance between the two pickups.
No, it’s not. At least not in typical wiring. Might be an interesting thing to try, though. It’s a tone control wired to the bridge pickup. — Michael Pugh
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If you look at the legend on this drawing (Standard Strat), you’ll see that the first Tone knob controls only the neck pickup. The second Tone knob controls BOTH the middle and bridge pickups. http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/pdf/diagrams/ASSTRAT/SD0107400CPg4.pdf This is a link to all of the different variations: http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/diagrams.php Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I know that one knob is volume and one is for tone, what is the 3rd knob >for? >gb > equilizer. You use it when you are using 2 pickups (either first 2 or > bottom 2). You adjust the balance between the two pickups.
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Ahem, In a typical Fender Strat, The first knob is for the Volume, The second is a tone knob for the neck pick-up, and the second tone knob is for the middle pick-up. The bridge pick-up does not have a tone control.
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> If you look at the legend on this drawing (Standard Strat), you’ll see that > the first Tone knob controls only the neck pickup. The second Tone knob > controls BOTH the middle and bridge pickups.
I stand corrected…it IS the middle and bridge pickup…not just the bridge as I stated. (I only ever use positions 1 and 2 on my Strat…that’ll teach me). Cheers, — Michael Pugh
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I’ll plug mine in and check, I could have sworn the bridge puck-up didn’t seem to be affeted by the second tone knob.
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> Ahem, > In a typical Fender Strat, > The first knob is for the Volume, The second is a tone knob for the neck > pick-up, and the second tone knob is for the middle pick-up. > The bridge pick-up does not have a tone control.
Ladies and Gentleman, we have a winner! ;-) Unless your guitar has been modified, there is *no* tone control for the bridge pickup on a Fender Strat. The top knob is volume. Middle knob is neck pickup tone. Bottom knob is middle pickup tone. John — John O’Brien "I can tell your future, just look what’s in your hand" -R. Hunter
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BTW, My American Deluxe does exactly what this drawing says it should. Tone knob closest to Volume controls only the neck pickup. The other Tone knob controls both the middle and bridge. Bob
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you look at the legend on this drawing (Standard Strat), you’ll see that > the first Tone knob controls only the neck pickup. The second Tone knob > controls BOTH the middle and bridge pickups. > http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/pdf/diagrams/ASSTRAT/SD0107400CPg4.pdf > This is a link to all of the different variations: > http://www.mrgearhead.net/faq/diagrams.php > Bob
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Not that anyone’s confused by this (least of all me…) It occurs to me that perhaps no one ever actually uses that control. The only time I use the neck tone control is when I need to simulate a Santana-ish sound and happen to be holding a Strat. Otherwise, the tone controls pretty much stay wide open. Cheers, — Michael Pugh
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ahem, > In a typical Fender Strat, > The first knob is for the Volume, The second is a tone knob for the neck > pick-up, and the second tone knob is for the middle pick-up. > The bridge pick-up does not have a tone control. > Ladies and Gentleman, we have a winner! ;-) > Unless your guitar has been modified, there is *no* tone control for > the bridge pickup on a Fender Strat. > The top knob is volume. > Middle knob is neck pickup tone. > Bottom knob is middle pickup tone. > John > — > John O’Brien > "I can tell your future, just look what’s in your hand" -R. Hunter