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Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things. Thanks
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> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have > fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things.
Don’t you believe it. Vouching for the TSL100 at least, these are KILLER amps. – KP
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> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have > fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things. > Thanks
I don’t have one of these amps. I have a 1989 Marshall stack. But I have jammed with people who do have them. They can sound terrible if you don’t know how to set the controls or they can sound fantastic if you do. They are very versatile for a Marshall. Pt
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> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive.
Go http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/tmp/tom/samples.htm IMHO DSL/TSL sounds great Piotrek — | Hominis est errare, insipientis in errore perseverare. |
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have > fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things. > Thanks > I don’t have one of these amps. I have a 1989 Marshall stack. > But I have jammed with people who do have them. They can sound terrible if > you don’t know how to set the controls or they can sound fantastic if you > do. > They are very versatile for a Marshall. > Pt
Great amp at a great price. Not for amateurs.
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for me…… I’m getting a Boogie next….. either a Dual Recto or a Mark IV Perhaps a Triaxis and a 2:90 PA Nick
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>I’m getting a Boogie next….. either a Dual Recto or a Mark IV
Wow, were in the same pickle. The majority of people seem to be selling the mark IV, and it looks more versatile, not just tonewise. You can lower the wattage with the flip of a switch and it has a master volume so you don’t have to blast it to get that tone. But they say the dual recto just has *that* distotion. Take a look at the thread I posted on "mark IV vs. dual rectifier"
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>for me…… I’m getting a Boogie next….. either a Dual Recto or a Mark IV
how much did you sell it for?
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No. They’re WORSE. While it’s admittedly not an original idea, I do offer free removal of any JCM2000 products which could be fouling up your love life and preventing you from getting your fair share of the nookie, as well as keeping you from getting signed to the machine. I regret that you’ll have to pay the shipping, but I promise the amp will not come back to haunt you. Discretion assured. – KP
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> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have > fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things. > Thanks
Well it depends on what you expect your amp to do for you, and knowing what you want from an amp. If you are a first time owner and are not into the roots of where Marshall came from, well it maybe a good starting amp for a basic starting point. If you are a seasoned *experienced* player looking for a change, it could be a good thing as far as changes go. But, if you want the Marshall that wrote the History Books, this ain’t it!!! If you want to do things the way the players like Hendrix, Blackmore, Clapton (Cream), and the rest of the power trios of the ’60s, then this ain’t it either. If you are a pro playing in a band and want to cut the bands mix off the stage, again, this ain’t it. If you are a player looking for clean sounds that has most of the basics, yep, it could be a good thing. But if, you are looking of a lot of textures with the sounds of the old days, this ain’t it. Well, I hoped this helped… Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Service * Repair * Modifications * Design Engineering Live Sound & Studio Production
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enough >for me…… I’m getting a Boogie next….. either a Dual Recto or a Mark
IV Why take a step down?? Step up to an old JMP or JCM-800, or a reissue Plexi.
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You can also get a *real* plexi circuit in a Bassman-Style cabinet (tweed) from a guy named Clay Hullett in Nashville. E-mail me for more info…Pete who is nothing more than a very satisfied customer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > enough >for me…… I’m getting a Boogie next….. either a Dual Recto or a Mark > IV > Why take a step down?? Step up to an old JMP or JCM-800, or a reissue > Plexi.
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>> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have > fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things. > Thanks
Many people don’t like them, have had problems with them, hated the cut backs on quality parts, and been vocal right here.
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I have a TSL, i think it is great. Sounds really good etc. No problems here. Most of things i have heard that are negative are about the footswitch, who cares. Mine works fine for that two. Test it before you leave the store.
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> >> Are the TSL and Dsls really that bad for distortion/overdrive. I have >> fantisized over these amps, but now hear bad things. >> Thanks > Many people don’t like them, have had problems with them, hated the > cut backs on quality parts, and been vocal right here.
Pro’s love them. Amateurs hate them. Simple as that.
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I don’t think it’s a "bad" amp–it mainly depends on the style of music you play and the sound you want. I play death metal and I didn’t think it had enough gain–probably has plenty for less extreme music. Otherwise, it’s a very decent amp. For my needs, however, a Peavey 5150 works better–despite a less than wonderful clean tone! (not to mention it is about 1/2 the price of a TSL or even DSL!) John
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Pro’s love them. Amateurs hate them. Simple as that. I think you got that backwards.
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> Pro’s love them. Amateurs hate them. Simple as that. > I think you got that backwards.
I guess that makes me an amateur with 35 years gigging experience. I love mine 
– KP
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I really agree with John on this. I currently own a JCM 2000 DSL 50 watt and though it sounds good its gain channel just doesnt have enough to it. However when I play my friend’s 5150 head I am very satisfied with his tone. I am probably about to sell my Marshall for a good ol 5150. Seth
> I don’t think it’s a "bad" amp–it mainly depends on the style of > music you play and the sound you want. I play death metal and I didn’t > think it had enough gain–probably has plenty for less extreme music. > Otherwise, it’s a very decent amp. For my needs, however, a Peavey > 5150 works better–despite a less than wonderful clean tone! (not to > mention it is about 1/2 the price of a TSL or even DSL!) > John
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I’ll agree with the rest of the folks about the DSL50. Sorry I bought one. I also own a 5150 and that gets the bulk of my playing time. It’s not that it’s a bad amp for straight-ahead rock, blues, etc. but for thrash metal, heavy stuff, it’s an embarassment. And Marshall’s literature for it really brags up the fact that this is a great amp for today’s modern high-gain sounds. I even wrote them to call them on the carpet about this inaccuracy and their response was "it’s our best seller and Jason of Kid Rock plays it." I didn’t think that was such a ringing endorsement. But it’s clean channel is magnificent, I must say, but then when you play thrash, who cares? By the way, it’s up for sale. Any interested buyers, around $700 figure?