> I used to have a practice room next door to Cannibal Corpse. Couldn’t tell > you anything about the bass – It all just sounded like an unending wall of > atonal gut-busting sludge, punctuated by brief silences as they took yet > another bong break. Not any different from the half dozen other death metal > bands scattered throughout the rehearsal complex either.
Yes, I imagine it must have been like that. I could pick up Alex’s playing only in studio recordings, not live 
But the vocals, man, I can’t believe I liked that (In cannibal corpse they are specially (sp?) unintelligible (sp?), even among death metal bands) — Javier Gonzalez Nicolini Ingeniero Civil en Computacion – Universidad de Chile
>But the vocals, man, I can’t believe I liked that >(In cannibal corpse they are specially (sp?) unintelligible (sp?), >even among death metal bands)
LOL – I think Obituary gave up on (or perhaps never even had) lyrics – they would just growl rhymically and angrily : ) Maureen
>> Alex who-whatty now? >Alex Webster is/was (when I was a fan of him) the bassist for >Cannibal Corpse. >And a damn fine bassist too… right hand speed that was downright >frightening. Kept up with speed-picking guitar players, fingerstyle. >I liked him a lot. Although, I can’t stand to listen to Cannibal Corpse >anymore. From my death-metal fandom days, I dumped all the tapes, but >three jewels I bought on CD and are the only death metal I listen to >anymore: Morbid Angel’s ‘Blessed are the Sick’,’Covenant’ and ‘Domination’. >Someday I’ll get around to buying Sepultura’s ‘Arise’ too…
Check out the instrumental track on the CC "Gallery of Suicide" cd – I think it’s called "From Skin to Liquid" or something suitably creepy : ) There’s a lot of good music in some death metal bands….the vocals kill it for me most of the time though. Maureen
I used to have a practice room next door to Cannibal Corpse. Couldn’t tell you anything about the bass – It all just sounded like an unending wall of atonal gut-busting sludge, punctuated by brief silences as they took yet another bong break. Not any different from the half dozen other death metal bands scattered throughout the rehearsal complex either. — Learning funk bass? visit www.js3jazz.com/store.htm "Speaking the Truth in times of Universal deceit is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Alex who-whatty now? > Alex Webster is/was (when I was a fan of him) the bassist for > Cannibal Corpse. > And a damn fine bassist too… right hand speed that was downright > frightening. Kept up with speed-picking guitar players, fingerstyle. > I liked him a lot. Although, I can’t stand to listen to Cannibal Corpse > anymore. From my death-metal fandom days, I dumped all the tapes, but > three jewels I bought on CD and are the only death metal I listen to > anymore: Morbid Angel’s ‘Blessed are the Sick’,’Covenant’ and ‘Domination’. > Someday I’ll get around to buying Sepultura’s ‘Arise’ too… > — > Javier Gonzalez Nicolini > Ingeniero Civil en Computacion – Universidad de Chile
Alex who-whatty now? — Kristoff Lajoie Electric Bassist www.kristoff.4t.com www.brockdowney.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What do you guys think of Alex Webster’s playing? I saw thr making of The > Wretched Spawn and was impressed. > Mike
> Alex who-whatty now?
Alex Webster is/was (when I was a fan of him) the bassist for Cannibal Corpse. And a damn fine bassist too… right hand speed that was downright frightening. Kept up with speed-picking guitar players, fingerstyle. I liked him a lot. Although, I can’t stand to listen to Cannibal Corpse anymore. From my death-metal fandom days, I dumped all the tapes, but three jewels I bought on CD and are the only death metal I listen to anymore: Morbid Angel’s ‘Blessed are the Sick’,’Covenant’ and ‘Domination’. Someday I’ll get around to buying Sepultura’s ‘Arise’ too… — Javier Gonzalez Nicolini Ingeniero Civil en Computacion – Universidad de Chile
> Many Hamtramck Muslims said the call to prayer is equivalent to church > bells, noting that Hamtramck has several churches that ring their > bells. > However, Mary Urbanski, a lifelong resident, said the U.S. was founded > on Judeo-Christian principles and that church "bells are music."
I think they’re noise, but the Muslims are correct in their assertion that if xian church bells are permitted then muslim prayer shrieks are permitted as well. The only solution is an unbiased noise ordinance that forbids all public displays of sound over a certain decibal level. I’m not in the Michigan town in question, but if I were I would protest by standing outside the mosque with a boombox playing death metal music at exactly the same decibal level as its prayer shrieks. Then I would challenge authorities to do something about it without violating my right to equal protection under the constitution. Do you think the ACLU would take my case?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many Hamtramck Muslims said the call to prayer is equivalent to church > bells, noting that Hamtramck has several churches that ring their > bells. > However, Mary Urbanski, a lifelong resident, said the U.S. was founded > on Judeo-Christian principles and that church "bells are music." > I think they’re noise, but the Muslims are correct in their assertion > that if xian church bells are permitted then muslim prayer shrieks > are permitted as well. The only solution is an unbiased noise > ordinance that forbids all public displays of sound over a certain > decibal level. I’m not in the Michigan town in question, but if I > were I would protest by standing outside the mosque with a boombox > playing death metal music at exactly the same decibal level as its > prayer shrieks. Then I would challenge authorities to do something > about it without violating my right to equal protection under the > constitution. Do you think the ACLU would take my case?
I believe the best solution would have been to not allow the sounding of church bells. Yes, it probably is unfair to allow one religious group an activity and to deny the same to another. I’m sure some Christians would have been upset but by approving the call to prayer they’ve opened a potential hornets nest. Perhaps make all things equal. If church bells sound once a week then the call to worship should be restricted to once a week. To allow the weekly amount of times allowed for a call to worship to exceed the amount of times alloted to the church bells is just as discriminatory as to not allow the call to worship. Now what do we do if Satanist, buddhist, Hindus, Hara Khrishnas, etc all request the same authority for a call to worship. It sure would be interesting if the Satanist choose a banshee shriek as their notification for prayer. >
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Michigan Town To Hear Muslim Call To Prayer > DETROIT, April 23 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Muslims in the > Michigan town of Hamtramck could hear the five daily calls to prayer > over loudspeakers now that the City Council has unanimously given a > preliminary approval. > The council will hold a final hearing on the matter next week, > reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). > "There’s nothing preventing (the mosque) from doing it now," Council > president Karen Majewski said. > "What this does is allow us to regulate it in 30 days." > If it gets a final green light, the al-Ishah mosque will be authorized > to broadcast the prayer calls between the hours of 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 > p.m. — something many mosques in neighboring Detroit already do. > Masud Khan, secretary of the al-Islah mosque, said the purpose of the > call, which lasts less than two minutes, is not to proselytize. > "We are not inviting (non-Muslims)," he said. "We are calling our > Muslim people, reminding them they are obligated to come to pray." > Hamtramck, a once Polish enclave in the Midwestern state of Michigan, > has recently welcomed waves of immigrants from Bosnia, Pakistan, Yemen > and Bangladesh. > Muslims account for about one third of the city’s population, while > Polish-Americans make up about a quarter of the city’s strength. > They have been a huge boost to the city’s economy, opening businesses > and driving up property prices by buying homes. > Opposition > But the decision drew opposition among some local residents and the > social and cultural tensions of this multi-ethnic city of 23,000 began > to show at the council meeting. > "A U.S. citizen should not be subjected to the tenets of someone > else’s religion," said Bob Golen, a Hamtramck native. > Abdul Alguzali, a Hamtramck businessman, countered that he and other > Muslims "are citizens of this country, too." > Many Hamtramck Muslims said the call to prayer is equivalent to church > bells, noting that Hamtramck has several churches that ring their > bells. > However, Mary Urbanski, a lifelong resident, said the U.S. was founded > on Judeo-Christian principles and that church "bells are music." > Council member Shahab Ahmed, a Bangladeshi, and the first Muslim > elected to the body, said the council has strived to deal with it as a > strictly civic matter. > "It’s not a religious issue." > "The al-Islah mosque wasn’t even required by law to approach us for > permission. The mosque leaders were just trying to be good neighbors," > he maintained. > A Muslim physician walked out of the hearing shaking his head and > said, "I never knew they hated us so much." > Another Muslim, Gabriel Alaziz, said he was "blown away by the level > of intolerance I see here." >
> Oh, I’ve got it all figured out. We’ll be playing a show and I’ll turn > in my usual "near flawless" performance and he’ll flub a guitar solo. > One look from me will be all it should take to shut him up.
Heh. He’s be getting more than a LOOK from me! I’d be asking him if that’s how he gives the band his 110%! Benj — Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off!
>> After the show, the lead singer/guitarist had a "talk" with me. > Basically, he said he needed me to be there 110 percent of the time, > that he thinks the bass player should be in the driver’s seat and > ALWAYS be aware of what’s going on. He’s a bass player, too, so he > knows what he’s talking about. >What a bunch of nonsense!! Bass player too, ehhh?? I don’t care if his >name is John Paul Jones…I would explain to him that you are only human, >not a machine. Taking that into consideration, it’s only possible for you >to be ‘on’ a maximum of 99% of the time. If that isn’t good enough for him, >he should consider looking for someone else. Better yet, if he really wants >110%…..tell him to go midi.
Oh, I’ve got it all figured out. We’ll be playing a show and I’ll turn in my usual "near flawless" performance and he’ll flub a guitar solo. One look from me will be all it should take to shut him up.
glaker said…"> Anyone wanna hear me play (bass AND drums) check out > mp3.com/fashion_disaster – if anyone does please send some feedback !"
Uh, o.k. Fools Prevail Too much reverb on vocals Guitar not clear enough Excellent bass tone for the song but a bit too loud. Drums not punchy enough Did the same person mix this song as the other two? Just like I please Very cool. I lked everything about the song. Great tones, great songwriting, great groove. For the record, my current band is a blues band (hence my preference:-). My own Best Freind Hard rockin’ tune. A little too much reverb on the vocals sometimes, everything else was great. Chorus was a little too despondent for the rest of the song. Maybe that was the intention but it distracted me instead of emphasizing the point. But I did like it. That’s my 2 cents. Would you mind if we (my band) played ‘Just Like I Please’? I don’t know if they would go for it but it would fit into our format. Joe. — Whoever said ‘It’s a poor workman who blames his tools’ didn’t ever try to sharpen a pencil with a dull axe. Gregory Rochford — Joe’s Website: http://revolution.3-cities.com/~jsanch/ Band Website: http://www.lowtones.com/bigsteveandthetrainwreck
I once tried to re form my old band with a new Drummer. He was good, a death metal player. He had the chops and the stamina but lacked any focus whatsoever. When working on a song he would play it differently every time. When i asked him if he could get it nailed down to doing the same thing like the rest of the insturments he said he just liked to improvise as he went along. Well this was metal and not improv Jazz so when i got the clue he had a one second attention apan and ZERO focus and would not be changing because he could not I left the situation as the first out I saw. mike
> It is difficult to play with band mates that do not listen to the rest of > the band. Some of the most talented people I have played with are the most > selfish in this respect.
If a band member is not listening to the rest of the band, then they are not talented *at all*, at least with respect to ensemble playing. Listening to the rest of the band is an ABSOLUTE prerequisite for the band sounding good. I can still remember long ago when I started jamming in garages. The hardest thing to do was to listen to the band while trying to play my instrument when I was just learning it. One of things you get from practice and experience is that a lot of the mechanical aspects of playing become automatic so you can devote more of your brain to listening to what is going on around you. – Gary Rosen
> After the show, the lead singer/guitarist had a "talk" with me. > Basically, he said he needed me to be there 110 percent of the time, > that he thinks the bass player should be in the driver’s seat and > ALWAYS be aware of what’s going on. He’s a bass player, too, so he > knows what he’s talking about.
What a bunch of nonsense!! Bass player too, ehhh?? I don’t care if his name is John Paul Jones…I would explain to him that you are only human, not a machine. Taking that into consideration, it’s only possible for you to be ‘on’ a maximum of 99% of the time. If that isn’t good enough for him, he should consider looking for someone else. Better yet, if he really wants 110%…..tell him to go midi. > Still .. I came away with a bit of an injured ego. I was put out that > he felt the need to say anything.
Anyone would feel like that. Does he actually think you did it on purpose? — Dave Fitz
Last night a different drummer tried out with us. He was good, tight, lots of fills etc. But I could not get in the groove with him. I can’t pinpoint it. It just was not happening. One thing that I did figure out was that he played the songs too slow. I did not dictate tempos to him. He said he knew the songs. I later switched to guitar and let another guy play the bass and he had the same problem but even more-so. They were walking all over each other on the fills. Another thing was that I felt that he played too softly. Like I said he was a good drummer but he did not give me anything to groove to. I have to do a gig tonight with yet another drummer. Hope things go better. Pt
Here’s my $0.02 Presently I am playing with a church band. The drummer is notorious for changing drum beats on me. She says that she just plays what she feels. I have tried to talk with her but she has a bit of a self esteem problem and takes my suggestions as insults. So, now I just listen and go were the music leads me. It is difficult to play with band mates that do not listen to the rest of the band. Some of the most talented people I have played with are the most selfish in this respect. In my youth I would fight them. These days I just look for something that complements what is going on. It is best for the band. And it is good practice for a bass player to rethink the groove on the fly. It’s amazing how a different drum beat completely changes However, there are cases when the bass has the mojo and you need to tell the drummer back the freak off and fall in line. Lots of practice and open / constructive communication can sometimes turn these things around. In some cases the person is oblivious to their groove domination / destruction and if approached constructively, they will back off. In other cases they are just immature jack asses not willing to be a team player and its best to move on. Dave
>Lots of practice and open / constructive communication
Constructive communication often is taken as insults. What an odd group musicians are. :) Pt
> Here’s my $0.02 > Presently I am playing with a church band. The drummer is notorious for > changing drum beats on me. She says that she just plays what she feels. I > have tried to talk with her but she has a bit of a self esteem problem and > takes my suggestions as insults. So, now I just listen and go were the > music leads me.
Wow… I guess it is the church-y thing to do. Hats off to Dave. Just as long as we all know that this is not normally accepted behavior for a drummer. Just think what would happen if a musician would try that attitude. We’d have Miles Davis. EEK!!! — O> /() ^^
> What an odd group musicians are. :)
As are drummers — O> /() ^^
>>Lots of practice and open / constructive communication >Constructive communication often is taken as insults. >What an odd group musicians are. :) >Pt
Tell me about it. A couple of weeks ago I did a happy hour show. It went okay, but on two songs I had a couple of major clams — the kind that EVERYONE notices. Not a typical thing for me. After the show, the lead singer/guitarist had a "talk" with me. Basically, he said he needed me to be there 110 percent of the time, that he thinks the bass player should be in the driver’s seat and ALWAYS be aware of what’s going on. He’s a bass player, too, so he knows what he’s talking about. Still .. I came away with a bit of an injured ego. I was put out that he felt the need to say anything. But I turned it around and let it push me to be better. He wants me in the driver’s seat? He’s got it …
> Wow… > I guess it is the church-y thing to do. Hats off to Dave.
It’s weird to be in the church-y environment. Back in the heavy metal days, we would say" "what the f**k do you think your doing" and get it off our chest. It’s been an adjustment trying to be politically correct and still get the point across. Sometimes I am successful and other times I just put up with the imperfections. But after nine months of playing twice a week with the band things have improved dramatically. I tape record a lot of the rehearsals and have come up with some of our best grooves after studying the rehearsal tapes. Dave
As primarily a drummer who doubles in another band playing bass, here’s my 2 cents: a) when ANY drummer has a bad night, the whole band sounds like shit, unlike the guitar player for instance……. b) there’s ALOT to be said for groove and not overplaying – took me YEARS to learn this one (NOW when I feel like overplaying, I usually do it on the hats…hehehe) I used to feel I had to PROVE something by playing more (more is more was my credo) Drummer has to play MUSICALLY is really where it’s at. Listen to Will Calhoun – a master of 1,3,2,4, and plays that way plenty to give the band something to lean on, but when he opens up, man…..you can barely feel the 1 (course all the band DOES, but that ain’t the point)…that’s musical…. c) finally there’s something about the way the drummer strikes the kit. Why did Don Was take Kenny Aronoff on almost every record he produced (like probably 100’s) – cause he beat the sh*t out of his drums – simply but very effectively – he got "the sound" by striking the drums properly – many drummers ain’t got that. Another example is Bonham….20 drummers can play the exact same notes on the same drumkit – not 1 will sound like John – that’s about the way he hit it – the velocity, the spot on the drum, etc etc. I’m pretty lucky to play bass in a band where the drummer’s good – even when he don’t feel great…..(ain’t as good as ME, but hey! ) If you have a crappy drummer who can’t take some criticism, scrap the dude – there’s lots of good drummers out there. My 2 cents. Gery Anyone wanna hear me play (bass AND drums) check out mp3.com/fashion_disaster – if anyone does please send some feedback ! I play alot on my own shit – but it’s MY shit – I uaually play alot less elsewhere, unless I’m asked to GO!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Last night a different drummer tried out with us. > He was good, tight, lots of fills etc. > But I could not get in the groove with him. > I can’t pinpoint it. > It just was not happening. > One thing that I did figure out was that he played the songs too slow. > I did not dictate tempos to him. > He said he knew the songs. > I later switched to guitar and let another guy play the bass and he > had the same problem but even more-so. > They were walking all over each other on the fills. > Another thing was that I felt that he played too softly. > Like I said he was a good drummer but he did not give me anything to > groove to. > I have to do a gig tonight with yet another drummer. > Hope things go better. > Pt
> Norwegian death metal band MAYHEM were involved in one of the most > bizarre rock accidents last night (March 9) when a flying sheep’s head > fractured a fan’s skull.
LOL. Hilarious. I wish I’d been there. Tim.
>Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison >sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. >The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing >objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of >undermining the faith of a Muslim."
Jeez, wonder what they’d have done if they’d found a tape of The Clash doing "Rock the Casbah"? Guess I’ll have to scratch Morocco off my list… if they think ordinary heavy-metal is an infringement to morals, I’d never get in with my Velvet Underground CDs (not that they could understand the lyrics anyway). Unit #02582: Endangered Old-Growth Redwood Toothpick Artisans, LLC [TINEOGRTALLC] — Frivolity is a stern taskmaster.
And not to be outdone, the Norwegians offer this: On topic, because it makes one wonder just what the hell is in the water in Norway ; ) Norwegian death metal band MAYHEM were involved in one of the most bizarre rock accidents last night (March 9) when a flying sheep’s head fractured a fan’s skull. Lead singer Maniac was carving up a dead sheep as part of the stage act in Bergen when the animal’s head flew off, striking Per Kristian Hagen, 25. According to Metro, Hagen was recovering in hospital last night and said: "My relationship with sheep is a bit ambivalent now. I like them, but not when they come flying through the air. I have a headache now." He has filed involuntary assault and battery charges. Band member Rune Eriksen, whose stage name is Blasphemer, said that the incident was unfortunate. "The whole thing was an accident, but maybe it would be ideal for another show," he commented, and promised the injured fan a ticket for their next show. The band could face charges with a maximum sentence of six months in prison. Police detective Carl-Petter Leganger said an investigation was underway, but that "nothing suggests this was a conscious act." Mayhem, whose songs include ‘Necrolust’ and ‘Deathcrush’, are no strangers to controversy. In 1991, lead vocalist Dead "lived" up to his name when he committed suicide. Drummer Hellhammer then made a necklace using some of the skull’s fragments and guitarist Euronymous reportedly cooked and ate pieces of Dead’s brain. Euronymous was stabbed to death two years later by the band’s bass player Count Grishnackh, allegedly due to the fact that Euronmyous had a more "evil" reputation. Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104435.htm
>> The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim." >Dunno about "undermining faith", but it sure undermines anything >resembling cultural values.
At least it wasn’t opera, with those sopranos that sound like someone pulling the tail of a cat (duck and run… ) Unit #02582: Endangered Old-Growth Redwood Toothpick Artisans, LLC [TINEOGRTALLC] — Frivolity is a stern taskmaster.
> Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim." > Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > international cult of devil-worshippers.
No heavy metal in Morocco – cool. — BMW R1150GS
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim." > Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > international cult of devil-worshippers. > No heavy metal in Morocco – cool.
That’s not the point. They could just as easily thrown you in jail because of your motorcycle. Equally stupid, equally likely.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. > > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > > undermining the faith of a Muslim." > > Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > > international cult of devil-worshippers. > No heavy metal in Morocco – cool. > That’s not the point. They could just as easily thrown you in jail because > of your motorcycle. Equally stupid, equally likely.
Not likely since Morocco is not in Europe. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
> Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes.
Muslims Strike Blow for Good Taste! > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim."
Dunno about "undermining faith", but it sure undermines anything resembling cultural values. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > international cult of devil-worshippers. > Parents and friends of those convicted are in uproar and argue that > the case should have never gone to court, blaming older members of the > establishment for not understanding youth culture. > Nine of the convicted men were members of three Moroccan heavy metal > bands – Nekros, Infected Brain and Reborn. > TelQuel, a French-language weekly magazine, has ridiculed the judge’s > remarks that "normal people go to concerts in a suit and tie," rather > than the black heavy metal T-shirt that was shown to the courtroom. > Driss Ksikes, chief editor at TelQuel, told Reuters: ‘Morocco’s young > people will not feel at home in their own country. Our judicial system > needs psychologists if they don’t understand that young people are by > essence subversive and like to shock." > The judge also condemned one musician for writing lyrics in English > rather than Arabic. The penal code in Morocco allows a maximum > sentence of three years for attempting to convert a Muslim to another > faith. > Journalist Nourredine Ben Malik, whose interview with a 21-year old > heavy metal fan for the weekly publication As-Sahifa allegedly > prompted the police investigation, said: "I am against these > sentences… there was no solid argument behind them, and I’ve signed > a petition saying as much. These are just young people who like a > certain kind of music. > "If there is a problem with their thinking it is not a matter for the > courts but for their families, political parties and society." > The incident had added to the growing dissent in the country that > authorities are losing touch with the country’s youth. > Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104418.htm > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
Those wacky Muslims are at it again! Go to jail for listening to bad music, but it’s OK to hijack and blow up airplanes. Allah akbar! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison >sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. >The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing >objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of >undermining the faith of a Muslim." >Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper >articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an >international cult of devil-worshippers. >Parents and friends of those convicted are in uproar and argue that >the case should have never gone to court, blaming older members of the >establishment for not understanding youth culture. >Nine of the convicted men were members of three Moroccan heavy metal >bands – Nekros, Infected Brain and Reborn. >TelQuel, a French-language weekly magazine, has ridiculed the judge’s >remarks that "normal people go to concerts in a suit and tie," rather >than the black heavy metal T-shirt that was shown to the courtroom. >Driss Ksikes, chief editor at TelQuel, told Reuters: ‘Morocco’s young >people will not feel at home in their own country. Our judicial system >needs psychologists if they don’t understand that young people are by >essence subversive and like to shock." >The judge also condemned one musician for writing lyrics in English >rather than Arabic. The penal code in Morocco allows a maximum >sentence of three years for attempting to convert a Muslim to another >faith. >Journalist Nourredine Ben Malik, whose interview with a 21-year old >heavy metal fan for the weekly publication As-Sahifa allegedly >prompted the police investigation, said: "I am against these >sentences… there was no solid argument behind them, and I’ve signed >a petition saying as much. These are just young people who like a >certain kind of music. >"If there is a problem with their thinking it is not a matter for the >courts but for their families, political parties and society." >The incident had added to the growing dissent in the country that >authorities are losing touch with the country’s youth. >Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104418.htm > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >—–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of undermining the faith of a Muslim." Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an international cult of devil-worshippers. Parents and friends of those convicted are in uproar and argue that the case should have never gone to court, blaming older members of the establishment for not understanding youth culture. Nine of the convicted men were members of three Moroccan heavy metal bands – Nekros, Infected Brain and Reborn. TelQuel, a French-language weekly magazine, has ridiculed the judge’s remarks that "normal people go to concerts in a suit and tie," rather than the black heavy metal T-shirt that was shown to the courtroom. Driss Ksikes, chief editor at TelQuel, told Reuters: ‘Morocco’s young people will not feel at home in their own country. Our judicial system needs psychologists if they don’t understand that young people are by essence subversive and like to shock." The judge also condemned one musician for writing lyrics in English rather than Arabic. The penal code in Morocco allows a maximum sentence of three years for attempting to convert a Muslim to another faith. Journalist Nourredine Ben Malik, whose interview with a 21-year old heavy metal fan for the weekly publication As-Sahifa allegedly prompted the police investigation, said: "I am against these sentences… there was no solid argument behind them, and I’ve signed a petition saying as much. These are just young people who like a certain kind of music. "If there is a problem with their thinking it is not a matter for the courts but for their families, political parties and society." The incident had added to the growing dissent in the country that authorities are losing touch with the country’s youth. Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104418.htm http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of undermining the faith of a Muslim." Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an international cult of devil-worshippers. Parents and friends of those convicted are in uproar and argue that the case should have never gone to court, blaming older members of the establishment for not understanding youth culture. Nine of the convicted men were members of three Moroccan heavy metal bands – Nekros, Infected Brain and Reborn. TelQuel, a French-language weekly magazine, has ridiculed the judge’s remarks that "normal people go to concerts in a suit and tie," rather than the black heavy metal T-shirt that was shown to the courtroom. Driss Ksikes, chief editor at TelQuel, told Reuters: ‘Morocco’s young people will not feel at home in their own country. Our judicial system needs psychologists if they don’t understand that young people are by essence subversive and like to shock." The judge also condemned one musician for writing lyrics in English rather than Arabic. The penal code in Morocco allows a maximum sentence of three years for attempting to convert a Muslim to another faith. Journalist Nourredine Ben Malik, whose interview with a 21-year old heavy metal fan for the weekly publication As-Sahifa allegedly prompted the police investigation, said: "I am against these sentences… there was no solid argument behind them, and I’ve signed a petition saying as much. These are just young people who like a certain kind of music. "If there is a problem with their thinking it is not a matter for the courts but for their families, political parties and society." The incident had added to the growing dissent in the country that authorities are losing touch with the country’s youth. Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104418.htm http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
> Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim." > Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > international cult of devil-worshippers.
No heavy metal in Morocco – cool. — BMW R1150GS
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim." > Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > international cult of devil-worshippers. > No heavy metal in Morocco – cool.
That’s not the point. They could just as easily thrown you in jail because of your motorcycle. Equally stupid, equally likely.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. > > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > > undermining the faith of a Muslim." > > Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > > international cult of devil-worshippers. > No heavy metal in Morocco – cool. > That’s not the point. They could just as easily thrown you in jail because > of your motorcycle. Equally stupid, equally likely.
Not likely since Morocco is not in Europe. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
> Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison > sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes.
Muslims Strike Blow for Good Taste! > The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim."
Dunno about "undermining faith", but it sure undermines anything resembling cultural values. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper > articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an > international cult of devil-worshippers. > Parents and friends of those convicted are in uproar and argue that > the case should have never gone to court, blaming older members of the > establishment for not understanding youth culture. > Nine of the convicted men were members of three Moroccan heavy metal > bands – Nekros, Infected Brain and Reborn. > TelQuel, a French-language weekly magazine, has ridiculed the judge’s > remarks that "normal people go to concerts in a suit and tie," rather > than the black heavy metal T-shirt that was shown to the courtroom. > Driss Ksikes, chief editor at TelQuel, told Reuters: ‘Morocco’s young > people will not feel at home in their own country. Our judicial system > needs psychologists if they don’t understand that young people are by > essence subversive and like to shock." > The judge also condemned one musician for writing lyrics in English > rather than Arabic. The penal code in Morocco allows a maximum > sentence of three years for attempting to convert a Muslim to another > faith. > Journalist Nourredine Ben Malik, whose interview with a 21-year old > heavy metal fan for the weekly publication As-Sahifa allegedly > prompted the police investigation, said: "I am against these > sentences… there was no solid argument behind them, and I’ve signed > a petition saying as much. These are just young people who like a > certain kind of music. > "If there is a problem with their thinking it is not a matter for the > courts but for their families, political parties and society." > The incident had added to the growing dissent in the country that > authorities are losing touch with the country’s youth. > Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104418.htm > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
Those wacky Muslims are at it again! Go to jail for listening to bad music, but it’s OK to hijack and blow up airplanes. Allah akbar! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison >sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. >The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing >objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of >undermining the faith of a Muslim." >Their sentences, which could last up to a year, followed newspaper >articles claiming that they were "Satanists" involved in an >international cult of devil-worshippers. >Parents and friends of those convicted are in uproar and argue that >the case should have never gone to court, blaming older members of the >establishment for not understanding youth culture. >Nine of the convicted men were members of three Moroccan heavy metal >bands – Nekros, Infected Brain and Reborn. >TelQuel, a French-language weekly magazine, has ridiculed the judge’s >remarks that "normal people go to concerts in a suit and tie," rather >than the black heavy metal T-shirt that was shown to the courtroom. >Driss Ksikes, chief editor at TelQuel, told Reuters: ‘Morocco’s young >people will not feel at home in their own country. Our judicial system >needs psychologists if they don’t understand that young people are by >essence subversive and like to shock." >The judge also condemned one musician for writing lyrics in English >rather than Arabic. The penal code in Morocco allows a maximum >sentence of three years for attempting to convert a Muslim to another >faith. >Journalist Nourredine Ben Malik, whose interview with a 21-year old >heavy metal fan for the weekly publication As-Sahifa allegedly >prompted the police investigation, said: "I am against these >sentences… there was no solid argument behind them, and I’ve signed >a petition saying as much. These are just young people who like a >certain kind of music. >"If there is a problem with their thinking it is not a matter for the >courts but for their families, political parties and society." >The incident had added to the growing dissent in the country that >authorities are losing touch with the country’s youth. >Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104418.htm > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >—–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
>Fourteen heavy metal musicians and fans have been given prison >sentences by a court in CASABLANCA for moral and religious crimes. >The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing >objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of >undermining the faith of a Muslim."
Jeez, wonder what they’d have done if they’d found a tape of The Clash doing "Rock the Casbah"? Guess I’ll have to scratch Morocco off my list… if they think ordinary heavy-metal is an infringement to morals, I’d never get in with my Velvet Underground CDs (not that they could understand the lyrics anyway). Unit #02582: Endangered Old-Growth Redwood Toothpick Artisans, LLC [TINEOGRTALLC] — Frivolity is a stern taskmaster.
>> The men, aged between 22 and 35, were found guilty of "possessing > objects which infringe morals" and were convicted of "acts capable of > undermining the faith of a Muslim." >Dunno about "undermining faith", but it sure undermines anything >resembling cultural values.
At least it wasn’t opera, with those sopranos that sound like someone pulling the tail of a cat (duck and run… ) Unit #02582: Endangered Old-Growth Redwood Toothpick Artisans, LLC [TINEOGRTALLC] — Frivolity is a stern taskmaster.
And not to be outdone, the Norwegians offer this: On topic, because it makes one wonder just what the hell is in the water in Norway ; ) Norwegian death metal band MAYHEM were involved in one of the most bizarre rock accidents last night (March 9) when a flying sheep’s head fractured a fan’s skull. Lead singer Maniac was carving up a dead sheep as part of the stage act in Bergen when the animal’s head flew off, striking Per Kristian Hagen, 25. According to Metro, Hagen was recovering in hospital last night and said: "My relationship with sheep is a bit ambivalent now. I like them, but not when they come flying through the air. I have a headache now." He has filed involuntary assault and battery charges. Band member Rune Eriksen, whose stage name is Blasphemer, said that the incident was unfortunate. "The whole thing was an accident, but maybe it would be ideal for another show," he commented, and promised the injured fan a ticket for their next show. The band could face charges with a maximum sentence of six months in prison. Police detective Carl-Petter Leganger said an investigation was underway, but that "nothing suggests this was a conscious act." Mayhem, whose songs include ‘Necrolust’ and ‘Deathcrush’, are no strangers to controversy. In 1991, lead vocalist Dead "lived" up to his name when he committed suicide. Drummer Hellhammer then made a necklace using some of the skull’s fragments and guitarist Euronymous reportedly cooked and ate pieces of Dead’s brain. Euronymous was stabbed to death two years later by the band’s bass player Count Grishnackh, allegedly due to the fact that Euronmyous had a more "evil" reputation. Source: http://www.nme.com/news/104435.htm
> Norwegian death metal band MAYHEM were involved in one of the most > bizarre rock accidents last night (March 9) when a flying sheep’s head > fractured a fan’s skull.
LOL. Hilarious. I wish I’d been there. Tim.
>Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that bit on >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m just a >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, THATS >ALL. >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html
I THINK YOU IDENTIFY WITH THE WRONG CULTURE PAL -|-
>Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that bit on >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m just a >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, THATS >ALL. >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html
SHUT UP WIGGER Israel is the God of Africa.
On 14 Feb 2003 in alt.music.ozzy, Dr. Rev. Benrand Esq. > Gene Hoglan rules!!!
San Dimas High School Football Rules! — ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 "God told me to skin you alive" http://prozac.iscool.net
>On 14 Feb 2003 in alt.music.ozzy, Dr. Rev. Benrand Esq. > Gene Hoglan rules!!! >San Dimas High School Football Rules!
Upper St. Clair High School football rules! So does Gene Hoglan!
Gene Hoglan rules!!!
Death Metal and Black Metal Music 666 FUCK JESUS 666
I’m glad I don’t have teenaged daughters.
> Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers,
I don’t like what I call wiggers…where’d ya ever get that idea??? I think the fact we CALL them wiggers to begin with kinda hints at that, don’t it?
whatever, pal — — "Wanting people to listen, you can’t just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you’ll notice you’ve got their strict attention." – John Doe (Seven) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > White Boy) made his/her contribution to mankind by stating in > Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that bit on > the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m just a > white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, THATS > ALL. > http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html > Oh goodie… fresh meat > — > ThePsyko > Public Enemy #7 > "God told me to skin you alive" > http://prozac.iscool.net
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hmmmmm did you figure out how to spell that or did your mommy help you ? taz
made his/her contribution to mankind by stating in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> -FUCKING- > hmmmmm did you figure out how to spell that or did your mommy help you > ? > taz
ohhh a ‘mommy’ lame.. you may be excused from the thread now – we’re only accepting teh best troolers — ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 "God told me to skin you alive" http://prozac.iscool.net
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Crazy >>> White Boy) puked >>> >Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that >> bit on >>> >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m >> just a >>> >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, >> THATS >>> >ALL. >>> >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html >>> You’re a g33k pretending to be a white kid pretending to be >> black. >>> That makes you a gigger and you’re act is lame, so fuck you. >>> — >>> lab~rat >:-) >>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere? >> How could you lab~rat, insulting all us g33ks like that. >> REAL G33K’s know how to use a PC without the defaults, which if >> you visited his site you will clearly see that he does not. >> What he is, is a ’slightly pink guy’ pretending to be a ‘black >> dude’. That makes him a ‘pigger’ or ‘k00k’ for the slighly color >> blind. >> God >Excuse me but I haven’t seen any evidence of anything that would qualify >him for the title of ‘k00k’.. this kid has a looong way to go before he >will even get past the ‘annoyingly stupid troll’ stage >Ok, I’ll downgrade him from g33k to just plain geek. How’s that?
WHat about l00ser or wi66er?
I just about pissed my pants laughing. How much do$e it co$t to have horn$ removed? ( :
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Crazy >> White Boy) puked >> >Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that > bit on >> >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m > just a >> >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, > THATS >> >ALL. >> >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html >> You’re a g33k pretending to be a white kid pretending to be > black. >> That makes you a gigger and you’re act is lame, so fuck you. >> — >> lab~rat >:-) >> Do you want polite or do you want sincere? > How could you lab~rat, insulting all us g33ks like that. > REAL G33K’s know how to use a PC without the defaults, which if > you visited his site you will clearly see that he does not. > What he is, is a ’slightly pink guy’ pretending to be a ‘black > dude’. That makes him a ‘pigger’ or ‘k00k’ for the slighly color > blind. > God >Excuse me but I haven’t seen any evidence of anything that would qualify >him for the title of ‘k00k’.. this kid has a looong way to go before he >will even get past the ‘annoyingly stupid troll’ stage
Ok, I’ll downgrade him from g33k to just plain geek. How’s that? — lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
made his/her contribution to mankind by stating in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->White Boy) made his/her contribution to mankind by stating in >> Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that bit on >> the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m just >> a white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, >> THATS ALL. >> http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html >Oh goodie… fresh meat > BWAHAHAH -FUCKING- HAH
ruh roh… what are you doing in my little slice of cyberheaven? — ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 "God told me to skin you alive" http://prozac.iscool.net
lmao…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Crazy >> White Boy) puked >> >Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that > bit on >> >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m > just a >> >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, > THATS >> >ALL. >> >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html >> You’re a g33k pretending to be a white kid pretending to be > black. >> That makes you a gigger and you’re act is lame, so fuck you. >> — >> lab~rat >:-) >> Do you want polite or do you want sincere? > How could you lab~rat, insulting all us g33ks like that. > REAL G33K’s know how to use a PC without the defaults, which if > you visited his site you will clearly see that he does not. > What he is, is a ’slightly pink guy’ pretending to be a ‘black > dude’. That makes him a ‘pigger’ or ‘k00k’ for the slighly color > blind. > God > Excuse me but I haven’t seen any evidence of anything that would qualify > him for the title of ‘k00k’.. this kid has a looong way to go before he > will even get past the ‘annoyingly stupid troll’ stage > — > ThePsyko > Public Enemy #7 > "God told me to skin you alive" > http://prozac.iscool.net
made his/her contribution to mankind by stating in >Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that bit on >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m just a >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, THATS >ALL. >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html > Smash your face in with a claw hammer, it will improve your looks.
My firewall blocked his pic – apparently it got caught in the ugly filter plug in — ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 "God told me to skin you alive" http://prozac.iscool.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Crazy > White Boy) puked > >Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that > bit on > >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m > just a > >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, > THATS > >ALL. > >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html > You’re a g33k pretending to be a white kid pretending to be > black. > That makes you a gigger and you’re act is lame, so fuck you. > — > lab~rat >:-) > Do you want polite or do you want sincere? > How could you lab~rat, insulting all us g33ks like that. > REAL G33K’s know how to use a PC without the defaults, which if > you visited his site you will clearly see that he does not. > What he is, is a ’slightly pink guy’ pretending to be a ‘black > dude’. That makes him a ‘pigger’ or ‘k00k’ for the slighly color > blind. > God
Excuse me but I haven’t seen any evidence of anything that would qualify him for the title of ‘k00k’.. this kid has a looong way to go before he will even get past the ‘annoyingly stupid troll’ stage — ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 "God told me to skin you alive" http://prozac.iscool.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Crazy > White Boy) puked >Hey I know you guys like what you call wiggers, remember that bit on >the show with the so called wiggers, well I’m not a wigger I’m just a >white dude that has a love for hip hop and a love for rapping, THATS >ALL. >http://geocities.com/d_white_rapper/rapping.html > You’re a g33k pretending to be a white kid pretending to be black. > That makes you a gigger and you’re act is lame, so fuck you. > — > lab~rat >:-) > Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
How could you lab~rat, insulting all us g33ks like that. REAL G33K’s know how to use a PC without the defaults, which if you visited his site you will clearly see that he does not. What he is, is a ’slightly pink guy’ pretending to be a ‘black dude’. That makes him a ‘pigger’ or ‘k00k’ for the slighly color blind. God
You`ve got to be KIDDING..!!!! You call that RAP??? It sounds like Michael Jackson getting it on with his monkey. Or A chinaman getting his nuts twisted by a pair of chopsticks. *
i think i asked this before, but my server deleted the old messages before i could get a reply anyway… what’s the verdict on putting wheels on a cabinet? i have a V4, and put wheels on the bottom. very convenient, but does it hurt the sound quality, resonance of a live show, etc? any thoughts? reply by email if possible, thanks, matt baker
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i think i asked this before, but my server deleted the old messages before i > could get a reply > anyway… > what’s the verdict on putting wheels on a cabinet? i have a V4, and put > wheels on the bottom. very convenient, but does it hurt the sound quality, > resonance of a live show, etc? > any thoughts? > reply by email if possible, > thanks, > matt baker
Frankly, I can’t notice a difference between wheels and directly laid on the floor, though some claim to. I think if there IS any difference, it would be terribly slight.
> Frankly, I can’t notice a difference between wheels and directly laid on the > floor, though some claim to. I think if there IS any difference, it would > be terribly slight.
More often than not I’ve fitted removable castors to cabs/combos I’ve owned.I have to say it does make a difference,but only slight,as you say. I think the issue is whether you can carry it single handed for 60 yards,which is what I faced on last night’s gig. Fit castors. SR
There have been a few threads on the pro’s and cons of having casters on cabinets, mostly having to do with the phenomenon called acoustic coupling. But then it was argued that AC happens even with casters. What it boils down to is do what do you want. FWIW I put casters on my Bag End S15-CUS with no significant ill effects. And made it a hell of alot easier to move. Joe. — Joe’s Website: http://revolution.3-cities.com/~jsanch/ Band Website: http://www.lowtones.com/bigsteveandthetrainwreck
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i think i asked this before, but my server deleted the old messages before i > could get a reply > anyway… > what’s the verdict on putting wheels on a cabinet? i have a V4, and put > wheels on the bottom. very convenient, but does it hurt the sound quality, > resonance of a live show, etc? > any thoughts? > reply by email if possible, > thanks, > matt baker
> i think i asked this before, but my server deleted the old messages before i > could get a reply > anyway… > what’s the verdict on putting wheels on a cabinet? i have a V4, and put > wheels on the bottom.
If you can’t tell… who would? :-) — -rob O> /() ^^
> i think i asked this before, but my server deleted the old messages > before i could get a reply > anyway… > what’s the verdict on putting wheels on a cabinet? i have a V4, and put > wheels on the bottom. very convenient, but does it hurt the sound > quality, resonance of a live show, etc?
Any accoustic coupling your gonna get is going to vary with the environment you are playing in so unless you only play in the same place all the time, it’s not something you want to rely on. I find that such environmental physical effects tend to make the sound boomier and less defined so I work eliminate them, not enhance them — Jay O’Connor http://www.r4h.org/r4hmusic
I have put castors on both my cabs, simply to ease transportation. However, I used castors with a softer rubber wheel rather than solid plastic. I have played on solid stages and hollow box-built stages and I cannot tell the difference between standing the cab on its castors or its solid rubber feet. A hollow stage ‘booms’ irrespective of what is between the cab and the floor. A solid stage doesn’t!!!! IMHO, the ease of transportation far out weighs any very slight change in acoustic characteristics which I find almost impossible to detect. — Alun P www.bassics.org
thanks gang! i think i have my answer -matt
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i think i asked this before, but my server deleted the old messages before i > could get a reply > anyway… > what’s the verdict on putting wheels on a cabinet? i have a V4, and put > wheels on the bottom. very convenient, but does it hurt the sound quality, > resonance of a live show, etc? > any thoughts? > reply by email if possible, > thanks, > matt baker
> shall I retell the story of Death Metal Frank?
LOL, SVT Cabinets… > Just say no to TAB.
Dem’s fightin’ words. — -rob O> /() ^^
Their web site is www.theczars.net. You tell me if it’s the same guys. :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > huh, probably not ‘the’ Czars then. Did kinda seem strange. Oh well. > m > www.xush.net >I don’t know if it’s THE Czars. I doubt a band with albums out in decent >distribution would be playing in our hell-hole. >I’ve heard them. Can’t say I was floored. They’re good at what they do, >I guess. Just not my cup of tea. >They have a logo on their door (which is painted bright red): a stylized >black falcon with The Czars beneath it in the kind of industrial-looking >font made popular on old communist propaganda posters. Oh, and there’s >some cyrillic script scribbled across the top o’ the door. >>pardon me, did you say ‘the Czars?!!’ >>You’s in Denver, eh? >>THE Czars? Now I sound like Kristoff… >>Those guys are amazing, if it’s the same band who’s albums I have. >>Have you checked them out? It’s some of the most beautiful music being made today, iffn I say so myself. >>The singer is great! >>m >>www.xush.net >>>>We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. >>>>Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this >>>>place seems to be too. >>>>-Noizycat >>>Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", >>>"Floodline" etc…. >>>Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, >>>too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group >>>called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard >>>them once in six months. >>>And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
No, that’d be the "yum"… You wouldn’t want to see me in tight silver shirt! LOL -Noizycat.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is that you in the tight silver shirt? > — > O< "Pthbt!" > (( > )) > <( ) > Z | > |_ > Steve > We’re right next to Hemicuda. Yum! > http://www.popsweatshop.com/bannedphotos.html > Hey, we’re playing Herman’s on Friday, c’mon down! > -Noizycat > > > We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last > place. > > > Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and > this > > > place seems to be too. > > > -Noizycat > > Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", > > "Floodline" etc…. > > Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, > > too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group > > called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard > > them once in six months. > > And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
> We’re right next to Hemicuda. Yum! > http://www.popsweatshop.com/bannedphotos.html > Hey, we’re playing Herman’s on Friday, c’mon down! > -Noizycat
I was planning on it. See you there. :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. >>Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and > this >>place seems to be too. >>-Noizycat >Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", >"Floodline" etc…. >Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, >too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group >called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard >them once in six months. >And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
> My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band > members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very > thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events > and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another > locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. > Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know > what kind of facility to look for. > Where do you guys rehearse?
My brother is in the garage area of an engineering company, partnered by the keyboadist. My Cuz is in a "loft" in a small plastics/injection molding factory. I think both bass and guitarist work there during the day. — -rob O /() ^^
We’re right next to Hemicuda. Yum! http://www.popsweatshop.com/bannedphotos.html Hey, we’re playing Herman’s on Friday, c’mon down! -Noizycat
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. > Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this > place seems to be too. > -Noizycat > Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", > "Floodline" etc…. > Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, > too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group > called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard > them once in six months. > And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
My Cuz is in a "loft" in a small plastics/injection > molding factory. I think both bass and guitarist work there during the > day.
Just remembered, you have to climb a (steel, welded and set into the cinderblock wall) industrial ladder straight up to the space. KRAZY! They use the fork lift to pack-out the 1/2 stacks for a gig, but for rehearsing, you gots to climb with your case in one hand. Keeps the guys from drinking too much at rehersal, or at least… from living to tell of it. — -rob O< "blah blah blah blah blah!" /() ^^
huh, probably not ‘the’ Czars then. Did kinda seem strange. Oh well. m www.xush.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I don’t know if it’s THE Czars. I doubt a band with albums out in decent > distribution would be playing in our hell-hole. > I’ve heard them. Can’t say I was floored. They’re good at what they do, > I guess. Just not my cup of tea. > They have a logo on their door (which is painted bright red): a stylized > black falcon with The Czars beneath it in the kind of industrial-looking > font made popular on old communist propaganda posters. Oh, and there’s > some cyrillic script scribbled across the top o’ the door. > pardon me, did you say ‘the Czars?!!’ > You’s in Denver, eh? > THE Czars? Now I sound like Kristoff… > Those guys are amazing, if it’s the same band who’s albums I have. > Have you checked them out? It’s some of the most beautiful music being made today, iffn I say so myself. > The singer is great! > m > www.xush.net >>>We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. >>>Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this >>>place seems to be too. >>>-Noizycat >>Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", >>"Floodline" etc…. >>Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, >>too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group >>called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard >>them once in six months. >>And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
Is that you in the tight silver shirt? — O< "Pthbt!" (( )) <( ) Z | |_ Steve
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We’re right next to Hemicuda. Yum! > http://www.popsweatshop.com/bannedphotos.html > Hey, we’re playing Herman’s on Friday, c’mon down! > -Noizycat > > We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. > > Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and > this > > place seems to be too. > > -Noizycat > Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", > "Floodline" etc…. > Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, > too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group > called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard > them once in six months. > And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
>>Personally, I think it’s crap. Been going down there for the better part >of a year and haven’t seen anything more unnatural than some of the >musical denizens. > thrash, neo-punk bands and ghosts can get pretty similar at times! > Sam
True. The main difference being ghosts don’t typically attend rehearsal with a 12-pack of beer under each arm. No stomachs, you see….
I don’t know if it’s THE Czars. I doubt a band with albums out in decent distribution would be playing in our hell-hole. I’ve heard them. Can’t say I was floored. They’re good at what they do, I guess. Just not my cup of tea. They have a logo on their door (which is painted bright red): a stylized black falcon with The Czars beneath it in the kind of industrial-looking font made popular on old communist propaganda posters. Oh, and there’s some cyrillic script scribbled across the top o’ the door. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > pardon me, did you say ‘the Czars?!!’ > You’s in Denver, eh? > THE Czars? Now I sound like Kristoff… > Those guys are amazing, if it’s the same band who’s albums I have. > Have you checked them out? It’s some of the most beautiful music being made today, iffn I say so myself. > The singer is great! > m > www.xush.net >>We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. >>Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this >>place seems to be too. >>-Noizycat >Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", >"Floodline" etc…. >Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, >too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group >called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard >them once in six months. >And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band > members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very > thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events > and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another > locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. > Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know > what kind of facility to look for. > Where do you guys rehearse?
Man, that place is a palace compared to where we rehearse. All occupied, too. Dang. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > We rehearse in a specific rehearsal studio (http://www.soundstructure.com/ > for those of you in Denver). It’s spacious, soundproofed, has restrooms, a > lounge, other bands, etc. The downside is that we pay for it, but it comes > out of band earnings. > -Noizycat >My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band >members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very >thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events >and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another >locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. >Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know >what kind of facility to look for. >Where do you guys rehearse?
I am in three bands. One practices at a bread factory, one practices at a floor-covering business, and one practices in a garage. Catch as catch can. The bread factory is the best because it always smells like bread, and sometimes they let us have some. Holding a titular Archbishopric since 1999.
> I am in three bands. One practices at a bread factory, one > practices at a floor-covering business, and one practices in a > garage. Catch as catch can. The bread factory is the best because > it always smells like bread, and sometimes they let us have some.
LOL. When Rob’s quote of the week goes off AGB.com, this one should go on. — /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H / | http://www.toddh.net/ X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this place seems to be too. -Noizycat
> Man, that place is a palace compared to where we rehearse. All occupied, > too. Dang. > We rehearse in a specific rehearsal studio
(http://www.soundstructure.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> for those of you in Denver). It’s spacious, soundproofed, has restrooms, a > lounge, other bands, etc. The downside is that we pay for it, but it comes > out of band earnings. > -Noizycat >>My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band >>members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very >>thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events >>and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another >>locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. >>Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know >>what kind of facility to look for. >>Where do you guys rehearse?
> Personally, I think it’s crap. Been going down there for the better part > of a year and haven’t seen anything more unnatural than some of the > musical denizens.
thrash, neo-punk bands and ghosts can get pretty similar at times! Sam
>My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band >members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very >thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events >and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another >locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. >Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know >what kind of facility to look for. >Where do you guys rehearse?
Onstage. (Yeah, I think I’ve heard it, just play it!) Day job and two young-uns. Need I say more? -Dave
> We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. > Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this > place seems to be too. > -Noizycat
Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", "Floodline" etc…. Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard them once in six months. And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
pardon me, did you say ‘the Czars?!!’ You’s in Denver, eh? THE Czars? Now I sound like Kristoff… Those guys are amazing, if it’s the same band who’s albums I have. Have you checked them out? It’s some of the most beautiful music being made today, iffn I say so myself. The singer is great! m www.xush.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We JUST moved into it, about a week ago. Should’a seen the last place. > Is your place filled with death metal bands? Our last place was and this > place seems to be too. > -Noizycat > Yup. Death metal all around us. "Casket Crew", "Symbolic Hate", > "Floodline" etc…. > Also a couple of heavy and REALLY loud neo-punk bands ala the Hives, > too. "The Otter Pops"and "The Czars". Even an all-girl punk-ish group > called "The Emmas". The last never seem to rehearse, though. I’ve heard > them once in six months. > And then there’s us. R-n-B and funk. Kinda funny, actually.
> My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band > members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very > thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events > and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another > locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. > Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know > what kind of facility to look for. > Where do you guys rehearse?
We rehearse in the basement of what used to be the Denver armory. There about 12 practice rooms down there, mostly occupied by thrash or neo punk bands. Creepy dimly lit corridors covered floor to ceiling with equally creepy graffiti. As my drummer once summed it up: "this place is like rock n’ roll meets Silence of the Lambs". On an equally creepy note, someone just told me the armory was built on the site of an old fort which operated in the 1800’s, where there were apparently a lot of Native American executions. It’s supposed to be one of Denver’s "10 most haunted places". Personally, I think it’s crap. Been going down there for the better part of a year and haven’t seen anything more unnatural than some of the musical denizens.
We rehearse in a specific rehearsal studio (http://www.soundstructure.com/ for those of you in Denver). It’s spacious, soundproofed, has restrooms, a lounge, other bands, etc. The downside is that we pay for it, but it comes out of band earnings. -Noizycat
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My band currently rehearses at a local school, where one of our band > members is the music teacher. It’s a great arrangement, and I’m very > thankful of the school to let us do it, but sometimes, school events > and so forth get in the way. So I was thinking of finding another > locale, and it occurred to me I haven’t a clue where to start looking. > Obviously, our homes won’t work well for us. But I don’t even know > what kind of facility to look for. > Where do you guys rehearse?
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I live in the Netherlands and have my own company. My office has a special > rehearsel room with complete PA and backline. > This is a dream for every musician of course… > But the benefit is, that this is located at industria estate, so nobody > cares in rhe evening or night about the noise. > Maybe look around in your area if you have a friend, working in a building > with some spare room. > In our town we also have commercial rehearsal rooms, but you have to pay > approx. 35-50$ per evening. > Good luck! > Ren
just looking for opinions… do you think a 5-string bass is required to play in a death metal band? or can a standard 4-string handle the low-end? thanks rafe
>just looking for opinions… >do you think a 5-string bass is required to play in a death metal >band? or can a standard 4-string handle the low-end?
Well, do you think a 5-string bass is required to make the sounds come out of the amp that you want to hear coming out of the amp? I’m not trying to be snide—it’s just that there’s no other answer. Of course a 5-string isn’t *required*; hell, a 4-string isn’t *required*, and I’m not even too sure about three. I wouldn’t go to one string, but you can do a hell of a lot with two. Death metal as I understand the term (but be aware that I’m an old fart, and it may mean something different to you) is about texture, not distinction, in the low end. That may be a good argument for having the lower notes of a B string available; then again, it may be a good argument for not bothering with extra notes that are just going to get lost. The fact that people answer these sorts of questions differently is one reason bands don’t all sound the same. (And since the usual complain about death metal is that it all sounds the same, it may be advantageous to throw out the standard answers and see what you get in their place.) Given your name, it may be of interest that Tom Araya seems to play 4-strings. (And, yes, I know Slayer is only arguably death metal, in the world of microgenres.) NT — Nathan Tenny | A foolish consistency Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA | recapitulates phylogeny.
> just looking for opinions… > do you think a 5-string bass is required to play in a death metal > band?
hmm… See the Alex Webster from Cannibal Corpse, incredible man who use 5 string bass. so you have the answer ) I think that must be individual choice ! Greetings
: : >>just looking for opinions… : >> : >>do you think a 5-string bass is required to play in a death metal : >>band? or can a standard 4-string handle the low-end? : > : >Well, do you think a 5-string bass is required to make the sounds come out : >of the amp that you want to hear coming out of the amp? : > : >I’m not trying to be snide—it’s just that there’s no other answer. Of : >course a 5-string isn’t *required*; hell, a 4-string isn’t *required*, and : >I’m not even too sure about three. I wouldn’t go to one string, but you : >can do a hell of a lot with two. : > : >Death metal as I understand the term (but be aware that I’m an old fart, and : >it may mean something different to you) is about texture, not distinction, : >in the low end. That may be a good argument for having the lower notes of : >a B string available; then again, it may be a good argument for not bothering : >with extra notes that are just going to get lost. The fact that people : >answer these sorts of questions differently is one reason bands don’t all : >sound the same. (And since the usual complain about death metal is that : >it all sounds the same, it may be advantageous to throw out the standard : >answers and see what you get in their place.) Some would argue that "bass" isn’t necessary at all in death metal, since it gets frequently lost between the guitars and drums. I would say to pay attention to what your guitar players do since most death metal bass follows the guitars. If they frequently go below standard E on their guitars, you might want to pick up a 5-string. I think you could get your point across just fine with a 4-string. Plus, the lower you go, the more likely the human ear is to lose it in the mix. Think about being heard through the rest of the band. : >Given your name, it may be of interest that Tom Araya seems to play : >4-strings. (And, yes, I know Slayer is only arguably death metal, in : >the world of microgenres.) : > Tom Araya tunes down on his 4 string. : I play in a Tool tribute. I own 9 basses – all 4 strings. For my needs : I tune 1 normally, 1 to BEDG and 1 to BADG. : : So no a 5 string isn’t necessary but I definitely rely on the low B. I : have a personal preference not to play anything more than 4 strings : (also a limit to how many basses I want to own) but depending on what : you play, ie; Godsmack, Korn, Tool, or whatever, it’s tough to not : have a low string. Those are hardly death metal bands, though. They are more like n
valiant 1-thanks fromme & many others. R
I am not sure for what I deserve your thanks. Thank you for your kindness regardless.
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A 1900+ really runs at 1600. 133×12 So why is my 1900+ running at 1200 since a jumper fell out when I was putting in the third hard drive… I know. Read the book. Yep. Getting right on it.
way more phun. zanx!
Naw. Drew Cary and Green Acres. No need for further programming decisions. Hmm, maybe Drew on Green Acres.
Northern Exposure is the only TV show ever. ;-)
So why is my 1900+ running at 1200 since a jumper fell out when I was putting in the third hard drive… I know. Read the book. Yep. Getting right on it. Not being able to see without a magnifying glass and prescription glasses is not a good thing when working on hardware. May be time to change career. Car selling? Anyone here done that?
I don’t blame you one bit. I’ve been doing the PC word processor thing since the PC had 16KB (today’s MB/1024). I’m in Word for MsDOS 5.5 one night back around ‘86 or ‘87… I type the word ‘beingness’. Spell Cheeker wants to change it to: ‘penises’. I’m guessing it was some derivative of the old Bell Labs Soundex algorithm. I’m really sorry, but that is incredibly funny if you can get past the stupidity of it. ;-) rr
Would rather do some Iggy and the Stooges instead of some stoopid xian hymns… big retarded proto-death metal… "anytime I wanna gotta right to move no matter what they say anytime I wanna gotta right to move no matter what they say honey I got a right a right to move any time I want anytime I wanna gotta right to sing no matter what they say anytime I wanna gotta right to sing no matter what they say honey I got a right a right to sing any time I want any old time.."
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, > That saved a wretch like me…. > I once was lost but now am found, > Was blind, but now, I see. > T’was Grace that Taught… > My heart to Hear. > And Grace, my fears relieved. > How Precious did that Grace Appear… > The hour I first believed. > Through many Dangers, Toils and Snares… > We have already come. > T’was Grace that brought us Safe thus far… > And Grace will lead us Home. > Her Lord has promised Good to Me… > The Word my Hope Secures. > She will my Shield and Portion Bee… > As long as Life Endures. > When we’ve been here a thousand years… > Bright Shining as the Sun. > We’ve no less days to sing Her Praise… > Then when We’ve First Begun. > Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, > That saved a wretch like me…. > I once was lost but now am found, > Was blind, but now, I see. > BeePersonnel Unite!
> I live in Redmond. > I will give you a buzz sometime (within the next few days…funny number by > the way)
I am attending Moose Dyas in Roslyn , WA in July…where Northern Exposure was filed. It is a NX festival Pleased to meet you BTW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m in Bellevue, WA > Phone # 425 top wang not making it up, either. > Would love to share a few moments with you, sir. > If you have the time, weekends are best for me. > Today is fine. > I can catch a bus and meet you by westlake mall??? > Any time… > (((((Dood))))) > r
– LyndaNP Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are. – Robert J. Ringer
Northern Exposure is the only TV show ever. ;-)
{{{{{{{Richard}}}}}}} ) Many hugs, TK Ps. It was a little hard to tap dance it but I think it went beautifully anyway Ds. "Ricky Ricardo" wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, > That saved a wretch like me…. > I once was lost but now am found, > Was blind, but now, I see. > T’was Grace that Taught… > My heart to Hear. > And Grace, my fears relieved. > How Precious did that Grace Appear… > The hour I first believed. > Through many Dangers, Toils and Snares… > We have already come. > T’was Grace that brought us Safe thus far… > And Grace will lead us Home. > Her Lord has promised Good to Me… > The Word my Hope Secures. > She will my Shield and Portion Bee… > As long as Life Endures. > When we’ve been here a thousand years… > Bright Shining as the Sun. > We’ve no less days to sing Her Praise… > Then when We’ve First Begun. > Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, > That saved a wretch like me…. > I once was lost but now am found, > Was blind, but now, I see. > BeePersonnel Unite!
I don’t blame you one bit. I’ve been doing the PC word processor thing since the PC had 16KB (today’s MB/1024). I’m in Word for MsDOS 5.5 one night back around ‘86 or ‘87… I type the word ‘beingness’. Spell Cheeker wants to change it to: ‘penises’. I’m guessing it was some derivative of the old Bell Labs Soundex algorithm. I’m really sorry, but that is incredibly funny if you can get past the stupidity of it. ;-) rr
I’m in Bellevue, WA Phone # 425 top wang not making it up, either. Would love to share a few moments with you, sir. If you have the time, weekends are best for me. Today is fine. I can catch a bus and meet you by westlake mall??? Any time… (((((Dood))))) r
LOL:D
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I live in Redmond. I will give you a buzz sometime (within the next few days…funny number by the way)
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One of the most beautiful songs in existance…One have have heard too many times in the line of duty.
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I’m curious. Where were you stationed? rr
12th Special Forces Grp (Reserves) – Northern California [now deactivated and absorbed by 19th Special Forces] Special Warfare Training Center – Ft Bragg, NC 101st Airborne Div (AA) – Ft Campbell, KY 50th Flight MEDEVAC – FT Campbell, KY Served in the Gulf for all three campaigns of war (Shield, Storm, Provide Comfort) I am currently leaving the Seattle Police Department on disability (PTSD and Manic Depression). Working toward PhD in Psychology (want to work with Vets and Police Officers) By the way, I visted your Web/Chat site….Very nice. I have also read your posts. You have done much good for your fellow man. Nice to know people like you still exist. I was being to wonder.
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Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, That saved a wretch like me…. I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now, I see. T’was Grace that Taught… My heart to Hear. And Grace, my fears relieved. How Precious did that Grace Appear… The hour I first believed. Through many Dangers, Toils and Snares… We have already come. T’was Grace that brought us Safe thus far… And Grace will lead us Home. Her Lord has promised Good to Me… The Word my Hope Secures. She will my Shield and Portion Bee… As long as Life Endures. When we’ve been here a thousand years… Bright Shining as the Sun. We’ve no less days to sing Her Praise… Then when We’ve First Begun. Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, That saved a wretch like me…. I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now, I see. BeePersonnel Unite!
true good words, thanks Ricky regards, Compucat >^+^<
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Forgive my grammar…It is a bit loose at times. I don’t use those darn grammar checkers, nor proof read (unless it is a paper I am writing)! 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 12th Special Forces Grp (Reserves) – Northern California [now deactivated > and absorbed by 19th Special Forces] > Special Warfare Training Center – Ft Bragg, NC > 101st Airborne Div (AA) – Ft Campbell, KY > 50th Flight MEDEVAC – FT Campbell, KY > Served in the Gulf for all three campaigns of war (Shield, Storm, Provide > Comfort) > I am currently leaving the Seattle Police Department on disability (PTSD and > Manic Depression). Working toward PhD in Psychology (want to work with Vets > and Police Officers) > By the way, I visted your Web/Chat site….Very nice. I have also read your > posts. You have done much good for your fellow man. Nice to know people like > you still exist. I was being to wonder. > I’m curious. > Where were you stationed? > rr
I’m so sorry. I got the CaPiZaShUn All Wrong. Here is the Corrected Version… ;-) Amazing Grace [ { ( by Anon ) } ] Amazing Grace, How Sweet The Sound, That Saved A Wretch Like Me…. I Once Was Lost But Now Am Found, Was Blind, But Now, I See. T’was Grace That Taught… My Heart To Hear. And Grace, My Fears Relieved. How Precious Did That Grace Appear… The Hour I First Believed. Through Many Dangers, Toils and Snares… We Have Already Come. T’was Grace That Brought Us Safe Thus Far… And Grace Will Lead Us Home. Her Lord Has Promised Good To Me… The Word My Hope Secures. She Will My Shield And Portion Bee… As Long As Life Endures. When We’ve Been Here A Thousand Years… Bright Shining As The Sun. We’ve No Less Days To Sing Her Praise… Then When We’ve First Begun. Amazing Grace, How Sweet The Sound, That Saved A Wretch Like Me…. I Once Was Lost But Now Am Found, Was Blind, But Now, I See. BeePersonnel Unite!
I’d like to know opinions about these two heads. Pros and cons. I’m into heavy-rock music, blues. My influences are Queen, Metallica, Pink Floyd…. I want an amp that feels good, sounds good, as TONE, and gives me from crystal clean sounds to full bodied sound heavy-metal.
I actually own a Laney VH100R. I love it. VERY versitile. I have the treble on the clean channel at 3 coz it’s on the bright side but roll off the treble for a fatter sound. 1st OD stage is sweeet! The distortion channels are awesome too, but this amp is not for death metal. Has more than enough gain but not that sort of tone. I use this amp for country, soul, funk, blues, rock, hard rock. Oh ,and the features on the back are endless. The reliability of the amp beats marshall hands down too. The speakers I use with this amp are 2 Celestion Vintage 30’s. I wouldn’t recommend a 4×12 cabinet. Go for a 2×12. It’s so loud and the best tone is at gig volume. Email me if you want any more info.