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Greg, what you wrote was right on!!! Exactly Correct!!! I thought I was the only one who knew that story right!!!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Randy WAS in fact on the plane. This is old news that has been covered in this >NG a thousand times. Once more: >After a kickass set in Knoxville, TN 3/18/82, the bus driver (who was also a >pilot) met his ex-wife backstage and asked Sharon(Ozzy’s manager and future >bride) if she could ride to Florida w/the band. Put on the spot, Sharon agreed. >The driver and his wife were up all night arguing on the way to Florida where >the band was scheduled to do an outdoor gig w/Foreigner, and the driver/pilot >named Andrew Aycock probably took coke as it was found in the autopsy’s >toxicology findings (I have the reports). They arrived early in the morning at >the bus depot, which was located near the mansion where they were to stay, as >well as a small landing strip called Red Baron Estates located just outside of >Leesburg. Ozzy’s keyboardist Don Airey (a photography buff) and another >passenger as well as Aycock (driver/pilot), went up for a ride while Don took >shots of the tour bus. They then landed and persuaded Randy (a reluctant flier) >and Rachel Youngblood (band’s seamstress) to go up for a ride. They went up and >flew a few passes over the bus, but on the 4th pass, Aycock, who was coked-up >and trying to buzz the bus, fucked up and came in too low. The plane’s wing >clipped the bus (w/Ozzy & bandmates inside), then the plane lost control and >hit a tree and then finally came to rest by crashing into the garage of the >mansion. It was later found out that Aycock had lost his pilot’s licence due to >a previous helicopter accident in which a young boy was killed. Truly one of >rock music’s greatest tragedies. By comparison, Hendrix had a long career. But >in the short time he was with us, Randy practically re-defined rock guitar and >infulenced many. An accompished teacher and player, Randy always trived to get >better. He always told his students to be themselves; words that should ring >loud & clear in an age where so many players sound alike. It was like, you >could hear 1 lick or run and know it was him. He will be sorely missed. >Peace- >Greg
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Randy WAS in fact on the plane. This is old news that has been covered in this NG a thousand times. Once more: After a kickass set in Knoxville, TN 3/18/82, the bus driver (who was also a pilot) met his ex-wife backstage and asked Sharon(Ozzy’s manager and future bride) if she could ride to Florida w/the band. Put on the spot, Sharon agreed. The driver and his wife were up all night arguing on the way to Florida where the band was scheduled to do an outdoor gig w/Foreigner, and the driver/pilot named Andrew Aycock probably took coke as it was found in the autopsy’s toxicology findings (I have the reports). They arrived early in the morning at the bus depot, which was located near the mansion where they were to stay, as well as a small landing strip called Red Baron Estates located just outside of Leesburg. Ozzy’s keyboardist Don Airey (a photography buff) and another passenger as well as Aycock (driver/pilot), went up for a ride while Don took shots of the tour bus. They then landed and persuaded Randy (a reluctant flier) and Rachel Youngblood (band’s seamstress) to go up for a ride. They went up and flew a few passes over the bus, but on the 4th pass, Aycock, who was coked-up and trying to buzz the bus, fucked up and came in too low. The plane’s wing clipped the bus (w/Ozzy & bandmates inside), then the plane lost control and hit a tree and then finally came to rest by crashing into the garage of the mansion. It was later found out that Aycock had lost his pilot’s licence due to a previous helicopter accident in which a young boy was killed. Truly one of rock music’s greatest tragedies. By comparison, Hendrix had a long career. But in the short time he was with us, Randy practically re-defined rock guitar and infulenced many. An accompished teacher and player, Randy always trived to get better. He always told his students to be themselves; words that should ring loud & clear in an age where so many players sound alike. It was like, you could hear 1 lick or run and know it was him. He will be sorely missed. Peace- Greg
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Hey Pugsley, Hello from Bellingham, Wa that is so cool you saw Ozzy at the Collesium in Seattle. Do you still have the ticket stubs? I have two of them from that show! The date on them is June 15/82 general admission. The price on it is $10.75. It is to bad tickets don’t cost that much now. That would be kiler! Last show I went to I paid $30.00. Boy have times changed.
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>>Randys plane didn’t go down, he was in a tour bus with the band. They were >going to stay in a friends house (for an upcoming tour) and as they were >arriving, the friend was showboating with a plane and circled the tour bus a >couple of times, but when he circled for a third time, he hit the tour
bus, I read that the bus driver was also a private pilot and that Randy was in the plane when the accident occured. What I read was that the plane clipped the side of the bus, lost control, and then crashed and exploded into a nearby shed. Which account is true I don’t know.
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> >>Randys plane didn’t go down, he was in a tour bus with the band. They were >>going to stay in a friends house (for an upcoming tour) and as they were >>arriving, the friend was showboating with a plane and circled the tour bus > a >>couple of times, but when he circled for a third time, he hit the tour > bus, > I read that the bus driver was also a private pilot and that Randy was in > the plane when the accident occured. What I read was that the plane clipped > the side of the bus, lost control, and then crashed and exploded into a > nearby shed. Which account is true I don’t know.
Jeff, Your statement is the right one. I think it was a garage not a shed though?
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>>>> Someone please explain how Randy Rhoads was left out..
Left out of what? If you mean left out of Ozzy’s post-diary career it’s because he’s dead! If you mean left out of the earlier work read the albums’ credits- he wasn’t left out at all.
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>Randys plane didn’t go down, he was in a tour bus with the band. They were >going to stay in a friends house (for an upcoming tour) and as they were >arriving, the friend was showboating with a plane and circled the tour bus a >couple of times, but when he circled for a third time, he hit the tour bus, >killing randy and the hair and makeup designer instantly, the pilot crashed >into his house and died too.
Thanx 4 the clarification. Very sad nevertheless. I knew it had something to do with a small plane. pugs
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Well the dumbass shouldn’t have been showing off. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Randys plane didn’t go down, he was in a tour bus with the band. They were >going to stay in a friends house (for an upcoming tour) and as they were >arriving, the friend was showboating with a plane and circled the tour bus a >couple of times, but when he circled for a third time, he hit the tour bus, >killing randy and the hair and makeup designer instantly, the pilot crashed >into his house and died too. > Thanx 4 the clarification. Very sad nevertheless. I knew it had > something to do with a small plane. > pugs
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Randys plane didn’t go down, he was in a tour bus with the band. They were >going to stay in a friends house (for an upcoming tour) and as they were >arriving, the friend was showboating with a plane and circled the tour bus a >couple of times, but when he circled for a third time, he hit the tour bus, >killing randy and the hair and makeup designer instantly, the pilot crashed >into his house and died too. >>>> Someone please explain how Randy Rhoads was left out.. >>>He never wrote songs, mostly just guitar solos. Plus the classical >>>guitar solo isn’t in anymore. It was a short lived thing. Most all of >>>the guitarists on this list were the main song writers in the band they >>>were in, or contributed songs. >>Uh exuse me, never wrote songs, just solos? I don’t think so. Randy >>Rhoads was directly responsible for every song on the first two Ozzy >>albums, albums that defined a decade to come. Also while Randy was >>studying to be classically trained, his solos could hardly be >>construed as truly classical. I don’t think anyone listens to the >>Blizzard of Ozz and says gee that sounds just like Yngwie. As for your >>last statement, it doesn’t even deserve the courtesy of addressing. >>Randy Rhoads influenced quite a few guitarists on the list. I just >>don’t agree with this at all. >>Regards from the, >>RhoadsKing >>Mr. Randy Rhoads – The Most Influential Guitarist Of The Late Seventies >and Early Eighties. >Very well put. It’s safe to say that we would never have heard of >Gillis and Jake E and the latter players also, without what Randy did. >Randy actually revived Ozzy’s career at the time. He was truely >unique and special. And yes….although being classically trained at >the time, Most of Randy’s stuff was straight ahead minor scales and >modes with great knowledge of rock chord changes etc. Plenty of >fretboard tricks also. >Being a young aspiring metal guitarist in 83 or whenever Blizzard came >out, I had the priviledge of seeing the Blizzard tour in the Paramount >theatre here in Seattle. >Randy had on a white bell bottom suit and mostly played his cream >colored Les Paul custom. It was absolutely phenomenal. >It was the guitar work on Blizzard and Diary that revived Ozzy’s >career which was at one of it’s lowest moments just prior. Just a few >years before, (another incredible show), I saw Black Sabbath in the >Seattle Center Arena and they were burned out and terrible. But it >was still one of my fave shows ever cuz the opening band was a few up >n’ coming guys promoting their first album. >They just happened to be Eddie, David, Michael and Alex!!! <g> >Yep VH!! Randy was one of the first guitarists during that era that >started turning the heads of VH fans. >Altthough Randy expressed that he didn’t feel he was in Eddie’s >league, and although their styles were very dif, He was just being >modest and definitely gave Eddie a run. >Ah…..those were the days. I remember reading also, that Ozzie >auditioned countless up n’ coming guitarists for his "Blizzard" band >but just wasn’t happy etc. Then…..walked in Randy (fresh from, or >still in Quiet Riot etc.) and….Ozzy said he knew RIGHT THEN, >immediately that this kid was sumthin special. >I literally almost cried when I heard Randy’s plane went down. >Just some opinions and rememberances for ya’ll from someone who was >there during the "magical" years. >I also saw some great Black Sabbath shows when they were more in >their prime in the mid 70’s. When Geezer and Tony were on, it was >incredible. >pugsley
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Someone please explain how Randy Rhoads was left out.. >He never wrote songs, mostly just guitar solos. Plus the classical >guitar solo isn’t in anymore. It was a short lived thing. Most all of >the guitarists on this list were the main song writers in the band they >were in, or contributed songs. >Uh exuse me, never wrote songs, just solos? I don’t think so. Randy >Rhoads was directly responsible for every song on the first two Ozzy >albums, albums that defined a decade to come. Also while Randy was >studying to be classically trained, his solos could hardly be >construed as truly classical. I don’t think anyone listens to the >Blizzard of Ozz and says gee that sounds just like Yngwie. As for your >last statement, it doesn’t even deserve the courtesy of addressing. >Randy Rhoads influenced quite a few guitarists on the list. I just >don’t agree with this at all. >Regards from the, >RhoadsKing >Mr. Randy Rhoads – The Most Influential Guitarist Of The Late Seventies and Early Eighties.
Very well put. It’s safe to say that we would never have heard of Gillis and Jake E and the latter players also, without what Randy did. Randy actually revived Ozzy’s career at the time. He was truely unique and special. And yes….although being classically trained at the time, Most of Randy’s stuff was straight ahead minor scales and modes with great knowledge of rock chord changes etc. Plenty of fretboard tricks also. Being a young aspiring metal guitarist in 83 or whenever Blizzard came out, I had the priviledge of seeing the Blizzard tour in the Paramount theatre here in Seattle. Randy had on a white bell bottom suit and mostly played his cream colored Les Paul custom. It was absolutely phenomenal. It was the guitar work on Blizzard and Diary that revived Ozzy’s career which was at one of it’s lowest moments just prior. Just a few years before, (another incredible show), I saw Black Sabbath in the Seattle Center Arena and they were burned out and terrible. But it was still one of my fave shows ever cuz the opening band was a few up n’ coming guys promoting their first album. They just happened to be Eddie, David, Michael and Alex!!! <g> Yep VH!! Randy was one of the first guitarists during that era that started turning the heads of VH fans. Altthough Randy expressed that he didn’t feel he was in Eddie’s league, and although their styles were very dif, He was just being modest and definitely gave Eddie a run. Ah…..those were the days. I remember reading also, that Ozzie auditioned countless up n’ coming guitarists for his "Blizzard" band but just wasn’t happy etc. Then…..walked in Randy (fresh from, or still in Quiet Riot etc.) and….Ozzy said he knew RIGHT THEN, immediately that this kid was sumthin special. I literally almost cried when I heard Randy’s plane went down. Just some opinions and rememberances for ya’ll from someone who was there during the "magical" years. I also saw some great Black Sabbath shows when they were more in their prime in the mid 70’s. When Geezer and Tony were on, it was incredible. pugsley
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Randy left out?Get a clue if not for Randy Ozzy would have never achieved anywhere near what he has.Randy wrote the first two lps with Dailsey and Lerslake.I had heard Ozzy didnt even write any material for those lps and that Lemmy had helped out.Not sure but have heard that more than once.God bless ya Randy.
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> Randy left out?Get a clue if not for Randy Ozzy would have never achieved > anywhere near what he has.Randy wrote the first two lps with Dailsey and > Lerslake.I had heard Ozzy didnt even write any material for those lps and that > Lemmy had helped out.Not sure but have heard that more than once.God bless ya > Randy.
I believe they can thank each other. Ozzy had the Name and the voice. Randy had the talented fingers. Look at it this way Randy had been with Quiet Riot for years and they never achieved a major record deal or headliner tour status. Even with Randy doing most of the musical writing. So it took Ozzy to gain Randy the international attention he deserved. I think it took the 2 of them to achieve what they did. Neither of them deserve all the credit. God did bless Randy on earth and I’m sure he has in death also. Randy you are MISSED. Randy
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>Uh exuse me, never wrote songs, just solos? I don’t think so. Randy >Rhoads was directly responsible for every song on the first two Ozzy >albums, albums that defined a decade to come. Also while Randy was >studying to be classically trained, his solos could hardly be >construed as truly classical. I don’t think anyone listens to the >Blizzard of Ozz and says gee that sounds just like Yngwie. As for your >last statement, it doesn’t even deserve the courtesy of addressing. >Randy Rhoads influenced quite a few guitarists on the list. I just >don’t agree with this at all.
He certainly should have been on the list. The guy was a great songwriter, or certainly on his way to being great. He wrote some breathtaking rock and roll music. I personally feel his songwriting is way under acknowledged. Ken Aldrich Chief Engineer Prog City