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Grin with Nils Lofgren – local band in my old hometown – Baltimore area. I saw them when they were nobody. Then they came out with White Lies and things changed for them, but not overnight. Nils Lofgren has some excellent music just to listen to. Trower – man, I had forgotten about all his great tunes… Day of the eagle, whiskey train, the fool and me… I saw him play way back when he was an opening act and soon thereafter as the headliner… played so loud I couldn’t make out his guitar playing… those were the days 
- Man, you get older, get married, have kids, build a career and all it takes is one tune to bring back memories of your youth in full living color… make you think of old friends with whom you’ve lost contact, places you used to haunt, things you used to, girls you used to date… and then you sum it all up and how you lived only for the day because tomorrow may never come and you realize tat’s there a reason you have to leave all that in the past - Greg
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I used to gig up until a year or so ago smoky bars mostly; some nicer places, too. I’m not a good player, but good enouhg to play with other folks and pull my part. After that band went kaput, I later joined up with old friends to make a go at playing pop for dances and try for better hours, better pay, but playing music I don’t even listen to. We never made it out of the garage… strange since we had more individual talent and experience than did my old gigging band, but I think we lacked heart. Anyway, since Christmas, I’ve been wanting to put together a southern/hard rock band, whihc I do listen to. I’m also putting together jazz solo pieces (which I also listen to) for myself and maybe some light gigs if I can get it together. Anyway, back to the hard rock stuff… I could enjoy playing that kind of music, but try finding folks in the 45-55 age bracket who want to do that! It’s as hard as finding jazz partners. Greg
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If you want to rediscover older rock, and discover "new" old rock looky here: http://www.radioio.com/radioio70s.php No standards like classic rock radio, just great stuff. Most of it fairly obscure. When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty.
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>When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty.
I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? Greg
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> Trower – man, I had forgotten about all his great tunes…
I remember being in line waiting outside Winterland to see Bill Graham’s show for that Friday Night in San Francisco. No one knew who Robin Trower was, and the rumor floated through the crowd that it was Acoustic Delta Blues. Graham was known for seemingly weird mixes, so that was possible. Jerry Pompeii, the MC, announced,"Ladies and Gentlemen, Robin Tower!" A screaming guitar rocked the room BEFORE the lights came up and the place went CRAZY! It was an incredible night!
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I listen to KPFT 90.1 in Houston (Univ radio) on Fridays from 4 to 6 they have old’rock & roll: Frank Marino, Rory Gallagher. Tommy Bolin, They played Green Grass and High Tides (Outlaws).. I haven’t heard in 20 years on the radio. There isn’t any band that comes close right now to old Southern Rock and guitar players of the 70’s . Regardless of whomever Allmans Br have, there is no match to Dickie and Duane. Crap on FM now has no melody, no hooks, no depth. No solos.
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I really enjoy Nils Lofgrin. Glad he made money with Springsteen and Neil Young. "You’re the wait" is a truly fine tune. My favorite Trower is the Broken Barricades album with Procol Harum. Wicked guitar.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Grin with Nils Lofgren – local band in my old hometown – Baltimore > area. I saw them when they were nobody. Then they came out with White > Lies and things changed for them, but not overnight. Nils Lofgren has > some excellent music just to listen to. > Trower – man, I had forgotten about all his great tunes… Day of the > eagle, whiskey train, the fool and me… I saw him play way back when > he was an opening act and soon thereafter as the headliner… played so > loud I couldn’t make out his guitar playing… those were the days - > Man, you get older, get married, have kids, build a career and all it > takes is one tune to bring back memories of your youth in full living > color… make you think of old friends with whom you’ve lost contact, > places you used to haunt, things you used to, girls you used to date… > and then you sum it all up and how you lived only for the day because > tomorrow may never come and you realize tat’s there a reason you have > to leave all that in the past - > Greg
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>>When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty. > I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? > Greg
Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? As in "trouble finding players"… Hang in there… they are out there. And there is SO much great ‘old’ music to play *again*. Story… about 5 yrs ago, I was doing a gig, an open jam… with a ‘throw together’ band… guys from different bands. It was a regular gig and we’d been doing this gig for months. One night, in the middle of a tune in the opening set, a guy walks in the club… every guy in the band (other than me) instantly recognizes him, and obviously supprised and delighted to see him. Since I’m not origianlly *from* the area, I didn’t know him. Now, I *NEVER* do this… but, from the reaction of the rest of the guys… I motion the guy over, and while he obviously thought I wanted to talk to him, I handed him my guitar. I don’t remember the tune we were in the middle of, but without missing a beat, he ripped into it. What a great player…! ! ! The tune ended, everyone was shaking his hand, they mulled over a what tune to do for about 5 seconds… then launched into a four song Bowie set that was absolutely KILLER…! ! ! Turned out, this guy was a *player/singer* from ‘back in the day’… nobody had seen him play for 15+ yrs… and ‘out of the blue’ he appeared, stepped up and it was like he’d been gigging right on through the last decade. After a break, we got up and did a couple tunes, and brought him back up… he new every tune we called, was a GREAT ensemble player, and has the BEST vocal vibrato of anyone I’ve ever been onstage with… amazing.. Anyway, he’d quit the music biz, had a family, worked a reg job for 20 yrs and with the kids *grown* one night decided to get come out and play. Now, like a lot of us, he’s a part time player… and a GREAT one at that. A few months later, he snuck his two sons (not 18) into the back of the club for 30 minutes to hear him do a set… they both play guitar but had never heard ‘the old man’ in a band. They were looking at each other with that "holy-shit-we-never-imagined" look… and they certainly got a new-found respect for their fathers musical *advice*. Somewhere there is a recording from that night… and on it is a rendition of "goin’ down" that people STILL talk about. I’d heard the tune on an old tape of mine that afternoon (West,Bruce, and Lang???) and called it that night. Everyone went "WOW..! ! YEH..! ! Haven’t played that in 30 yrs..! ! " Everyone ‘knew’ the tune, and we *winged* an arrangement on the spot… sometimes luck, the vibe, ones chops, the planets, all line up and ya can’t play a wrong note… right..?? :-) I did a one minute *intro* that started out nowhere NEAR the tune, and brought it right down into the ‘groove’… the drummer ‘heard it coming’ and did a killer lead-in that led the whole band right down the line into the tune. Over half the audience (lots of musicians) had either never heard the tune, or hadn’t heard it in years… Anyway… there are lots of guys out there who can REALLY play.. and sing.. and they are getting to where they ‘have more time’… I’m optomistic that the live music *scene* may find a resurgance over the next ten years… now if some of the clubs would try and be a bit clever and cater to *fans* and musicians it might start ’sooner rather than later’…. Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), Larry Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and the Drivers…
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> I listen to KPFT 90.1 in Houston (Univ radio) > on Fridays from 4 to 6 they have old’rock & roll: > Frank Marino, Rory Gallagher. Tommy Bolin, They > played Green Grass and High Tides (Outlaws).. I haven’t heard in 20 > years > on the radio. > There isn’t any band that comes close right now to old Southern > Rock and guitar players of the 70’s . Regardless of whomever Allmans Br > have, > there is no match to Dickie and Duane. > Crap on FM now has no melody, no hooks, no depth. No solos.
True.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >> Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty. > I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? > Greg > Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? > As in "trouble finding players"… > Hang in there… they are out there. And there is SO much great ‘old’ > music to play *again*. > Story… about 5 yrs ago, I was doing a gig, an open jam… with a > ‘throw together’ band… guys from different bands. It was a regular gig > and we’d been doing this gig for months. One night, in the middle of a > tune in the opening set, a guy walks in the club… every guy in the > band (other than me) instantly recognizes him, and obviously supprised > and delighted to see him. Since I’m not origianlly *from* the area, I > didn’t know him. > Now, I *NEVER* do this… but, from the reaction of the rest of the > guys… I motion the guy over, and while he obviously thought I wanted > to talk to him, I handed him my guitar. I don’t remember the tune we > were in the middle of, but without missing a beat, he ripped into it. > What a great player…! ! ! > The tune ended, everyone was shaking his hand, they mulled over a what > tune to do for about 5 seconds… then launched into a four song Bowie > set that was absolutely KILLER…! ! ! > Turned out, this guy was a *player/singer* from ‘back in the day’… > nobody had seen him play for 15+ yrs… and ‘out of the blue’ he > appeared, stepped up and it was like he’d been gigging right on through > the last decade. > After a break, we got up and did a couple tunes, and brought him back > up… he new every tune we called, was a GREAT ensemble player, and has > the BEST vocal vibrato of anyone I’ve ever been onstage with… amazing.. > Anyway, he’d quit the music biz, had a family, worked a reg job for 20 > yrs and with the kids *grown* one night decided to get come out and > play. Now, like a lot of us, he’s a part time player… and a GREAT one > at that. > A few months later, he snuck his two sons (not 18) into the back of the > club for 30 minutes to hear him do a set… they both play guitar but > had never heard ‘the old man’ in a band. They were looking at each other > with that "holy-shit-we-never-imagined" look… and they certainly got a > new-found respect for their fathers musical *advice*. > Somewhere there is a recording from that night… and on it is a > rendition of "goin’ down" that people STILL talk about. I’d heard the > tune on an old tape of mine that afternoon (West,Bruce, and Lang???) and > called it that night. Everyone went "WOW..! ! YEH..! ! Haven’t played > that in 30 yrs..! ! " > Everyone ‘knew’ the tune, and we *winged* an arrangement on the spot… > sometimes luck, the vibe, ones chops, the planets, all line up and ya > can’t play a wrong note… right..?? :-) > I did a one minute *intro* that started out nowhere NEAR the tune, and > brought it right down into the ‘groove’… the drummer ‘heard it coming’ > and did a killer lead-in that led the whole band right down the line > into the tune. Over half the audience (lots of musicians) had either > never heard the tune, or hadn’t heard it in years… > Anyway… there are lots of guys out there who can REALLY play.. and > sing.. and they are getting to where they ‘have more time’… > I’m optomistic that the live music *scene* may find a resurgance over > the next ten years… now if some of the clubs would try and be a bit > clever and cater to *fans* and musicians it might start ’sooner rather > than later’…. > Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New > Riders of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), > Larry Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery > and the Drivers…
GREAT post mvm
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> Crap on FM now has no melody, no hooks, no depth. No solos.
KPIG available through out most of Northern and Central Calif and online is FM the way that it used to be. Live DJ’s who play what they want, and it is primarily Blues and Roots Rock. See ya, John
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> Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New Riders > of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), Larry > Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and the > Drivers…
Are you from No Calif? See ya, John
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> Grin with Nils Lofgren
The Sex Pistols
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Spirit – right on. Jeez, I dodn’t think anybody outside of San Francisco knew of Lydia Pense/Cold Blood. Cold Blood, T of P and Ten Wheel Drive were my favorite brass bands The "Goin’ Down" I remember is Jeff Beck’s version. Good Stuff – all of it. Cool deal to be on the stage with a real player. I hope for the same some day.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >>Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty. > I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? > Greg > Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? > As in "trouble finding players"… > Hang in there… they are out there. And there is SO much great ‘old’ > music to play *again*. > Story… about 5 yrs ago, I was doing a gig, an open jam… with a ‘throw > together’ band… guys from different bands. It was a regular gig and we’d > been doing this gig for months. One night, in the middle of a tune in the > opening set, a guy walks in the club… every guy in the band (other than > me) instantly recognizes him, and obviously supprised and delighted to see > him. Since I’m not origianlly *from* the area, I didn’t know him. > Now, I *NEVER* do this… but, from the reaction of the rest of the > guys… I motion the guy over, and while he obviously thought I wanted to > talk to him, I handed him my guitar. I don’t remember the tune we were in > the middle of, but without missing a beat, he ripped into it. What a great > player…! ! ! > The tune ended, everyone was shaking his hand, they mulled over a what > tune to do for about 5 seconds… then launched into a four song Bowie set > that was absolutely KILLER…! ! ! > Turned out, this guy was a *player/singer* from ‘back in the day’… > nobody had seen him play for 15+ yrs… and ‘out of the blue’ he > appeared, stepped up and it was like he’d been gigging right on through > the last decade. > After a break, we got up and did a couple tunes, and brought him back > up… he new every tune we called, was a GREAT ensemble player, and has > the BEST vocal vibrato of anyone I’ve ever been onstage with… amazing.. > Anyway, he’d quit the music biz, had a family, worked a reg job for 20 yrs > and with the kids *grown* one night decided to get come out and play. > Now, like a lot of us, he’s a part time player… and a GREAT one at that. > A few months later, he snuck his two sons (not 18) into the back of the > club for 30 minutes to hear him do a set… they both play guitar but had > never heard ‘the old man’ in a band. They were looking at each other with > that "holy-shit-we-never-imagined" look… and they certainly got a > new-found respect for their fathers musical *advice*. > Somewhere there is a recording from that night… and on it is a rendition > of "goin’ down" that people STILL talk about. I’d heard the tune on an old > tape of mine that afternoon (West,Bruce, and Lang???) and called it that > night. Everyone went "WOW..! ! YEH..! ! Haven’t played that in 30 yrs..! ! > " > Everyone ‘knew’ the tune, and we *winged* an arrangement on the spot… > sometimes luck, the vibe, ones chops, the planets, all line up and ya > can’t play a wrong note… right..?? :-) > I did a one minute *intro* that started out nowhere NEAR the tune, and > brought it right down into the ‘groove’… the drummer ‘heard it coming’ > and did a killer lead-in that led the whole band right down the line into > the tune. Over half the audience (lots of musicians) had either never > heard the tune, or hadn’t heard it in years… > Anyway… there are lots of guys out there who can REALLY play.. and > sing.. and they are getting to where they ‘have more time’… > I’m optomistic that the live music *scene* may find a resurgance over the > next ten years… now if some of the clubs would try and be a bit clever > and cater to *fans* and musicians it might start ’sooner rather than > later’…. > Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New Riders > of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), Larry > Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and the > Drivers…
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>>Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New Riders >of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), Larry >Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and the >Drivers… > Are you from No Calif? > See ya, > John
Nope. But, I AM from that *era*… :-) How many remember "The Santana Blues Band"..??? Last month… on my stereo… Allman Bros Live in 2004 (Trucks/Haynes), Oscar Peterson *Big 6 at Montreux*(Joe Pass), Jimmy Bruno (Solo), Kenny Burrell, GRP Tenth Anniv Collection, Ralph Stanley (Shine On), Pat Martino… Next week, assorted traditional Irish violin stuff, Mountain, HelleCasters, Lynn Anderson *Cowboys Sweetheart*, A "Cole Porter songbook" (various artists), Joe Venuti and Eddie Lang, Robert Cray *I was Warned* …
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> Spirit – right on. > Jeez, I dodn’t think anybody outside of San Francisco knew of Lydia > Pense/Cold Blood. > Cold Blood, T of P and Ten Wheel Drive were my favorite brass bands
SHEEE-IT..! ! ! Ten Wheel Drive..! ! > The "Goin’ Down" I remember is Jeff Beck’s version.
Yep. Everyone remembers that one mostly… the one I have starts with piano… great version. BUT… Leslie West did/does a great version as well. > Good Stuff – all of it. > Cool deal to be on the stage with a real player. I hope for the same some > day.
It will. Happens pretty regular around here these days… last time, it was this goofy guy, strolls in halfway thru a ‘pub crawl’… says it’s his birthday and he only drinks on his birthday. OK…. He is thrilled to see there is a band in the joint… he asks if we do any southern rock/blues.. "Well, of course…" He says he plays harmonica and could he sit in for one song… well, of course. The guy was smokin’..! ! ! And he could sing great…! ! ! We kept him up there for the whole set. He only had one harp so everything had to be ‘in his key’.. :-) Haven’t seen him since, but his birthday is coming up in a couple months…! ! ! ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >>>Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty. >>I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? >>Greg >Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? >As in "trouble finding players"… >Hang in there… they are out there. And there is SO much great ‘old’ >music to play *again*. >Story… about 5 yrs ago, I was doing a gig, an open jam… with a ‘throw >together’ band… guys from different bands. It was a regular gig and we’d >been doing this gig for months. One night, in the middle of a tune in the >opening set, a guy walks in the club… every guy in the band (other than >me) instantly recognizes him, and obviously supprised and delighted to see >him. Since I’m not origianlly *from* the area, I didn’t know him. >Now, I *NEVER* do this… but, from the reaction of the rest of the >guys… I motion the guy over, and while he obviously thought I wanted to >talk to him, I handed him my guitar. I don’t remember the tune we were in >the middle of, but without missing a beat, he ripped into it. What a great >player…! ! ! >The tune ended, everyone was shaking his hand, they mulled over a what >tune to do for about 5 seconds… then launched into a four song Bowie set >that was absolutely KILLER…! ! ! >Turned out, this guy was a *player/singer* from ‘back in the day’… >nobody had seen him play for 15+ yrs… and ‘out of the blue’ he >appeared, stepped up and it was like he’d been gigging right on through >the last decade. >After a break, we got up and did a couple tunes, and brought him back >up… he new every tune we called, was a GREAT ensemble player, and has >the BEST vocal vibrato of anyone I’ve ever been onstage with… amazing.. >Anyway, he’d quit the music biz, had a family, worked a reg job for 20 yrs >and with the kids *grown* one night decided to get come out and play. >Now, like a lot of us, he’s a part time player… and a GREAT one at that. >A few months later, he snuck his two sons (not 18) into the back of the >club for 30 minutes to hear him do a set… they both play guitar but had >never heard ‘the old man’ in a band. They were looking at each other with >that "holy-shit-we-never-imagined" look… and they certainly got a >new-found respect for their fathers musical *advice*. >Somewhere there is a recording from that night… and on it is a rendition >of "goin’ down" that people STILL talk about. I’d heard the tune on an old >tape of mine that afternoon (West,Bruce, and Lang???) and called it that >night. Everyone went "WOW..! ! YEH..! ! Haven’t played that in 30 yrs..! ! >" >Everyone ‘knew’ the tune, and we *winged* an arrangement on the spot… >sometimes luck, the vibe, ones chops, the planets, all line up and ya >can’t play a wrong note… right..?? :-) >I did a one minute *intro* that started out nowhere NEAR the tune, and >brought it right down into the ‘groove’… the drummer ‘heard it coming’ >and did a killer lead-in that led the whole band right down the line into >the tune. Over half the audience (lots of musicians) had either never >heard the tune, or hadn’t heard it in years… >Anyway… there are lots of guys out there who can REALLY play.. and >sing.. and they are getting to where they ‘have more time’… >I’m optomistic that the live music *scene* may find a resurgance over the >next ten years… now if some of the clubs would try and be a bit clever >and cater to *fans* and musicians it might start ’sooner rather than >later’…. >Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New Riders >of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), Larry >Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and the >Drivers…
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> Spirit – right on. > Jeez, I dodn’t think anybody outside of San Francisco knew of Lydia > Pense/Cold Blood. > Cold Blood, T of P and Ten Wheel Drive were my favorite brass bands > The "Goin’ Down" I remember is Jeff Beck’s version.
I just looked at some LP history… West, Bruce, and Laing… "Goin down" doesn’t show up on any of their LPs (???). BUT, I saw them in the 70s (Boulder, CO.) and they played it. The tape I have of the tune is from that era, but it is ‘unlabeled’ and I have no idea where/how I got it. The thing I remember, was being very disapointed with WB&L… but that "Goin Down" was worth the ticket in… it’s the ONLY tune I remember from that show. I don’t think Jack Bruce *fit* in that ensemble… just my recolection. I REALLY miss big rock/funk horn bands… I was IN one for a number of years… Someday, I hope to start/join another… I’d make the line-up Bass Drums Congas B3 Two Guitars (or three) Two Trumpets Two Sax’s One Trombone And if it works… maybe… just MAYBE… … a chick singer…! ! ! ! HA..! ! ! ! ! ! ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good Stuff – all of it. > Cool deal to be on the stage with a real player. I hope for the same some > day. >>>When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >>>Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty. >>I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? >>Greg >Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? >As in "trouble finding players"… >Hang in there… they are out there. And there is SO much great ‘old’ >music to play *again*. >Story… about 5 yrs ago, I was doing a gig, an open jam… with a ‘throw >together’ band… guys from different bands. It was a regular gig and we’d >been doing this gig for months. One night, in the middle of a tune in the >opening set, a guy walks in the club… every guy in the band (other than >me) instantly recognizes him, and obviously supprised and delighted to see >him. Since I’m not origianlly *from* the area, I didn’t know him. >Now, I *NEVER* do this… but, from the reaction of the rest of the >guys… I motion the guy over, and while he obviously thought I wanted to >talk to him, I handed him my guitar. I don’t remember the tune we were in >the middle of, but without missing a beat, he ripped into it. What a great >player…! ! ! >The tune ended, everyone was shaking his hand, they mulled over a what >tune to do for about 5 seconds… then launched into a four song Bowie set >that was absolutely KILLER…! ! ! >Turned out, this guy was a *player/singer* from ‘back in the day’… >nobody had seen him play for 15+ yrs… and ‘out of the blue’ he >appeared, stepped up and it was like he’d been gigging right on through >the last decade. >After a break, we got up and did a couple tunes, and brought him back >up… he new every tune we called, was a GREAT ensemble player, and has >the BEST vocal vibrato of anyone I’ve ever been onstage with… amazing.. >Anyway, he’d quit the music biz, had a family, worked a reg job for 20 yrs >and with the kids *grown* one night decided to get come out and play. >Now, like a lot of us, he’s a part time player… and a GREAT one at that. >A few months later, he snuck his two sons (not 18) into the back of the >club for 30 minutes to hear him do a set… they both play guitar but had >never heard ‘the old man’ in a band. They were looking at each other with >that "holy-shit-we-never-imagined" look… and they certainly got a >new-found respect for their fathers musical *advice*. >Somewhere there is a recording from that night… and on it is a rendition >of "goin’ down" that people STILL talk about. I’d heard the tune on an old >tape of mine that afternoon (West,Bruce, and Lang???) and called it that >night. Everyone went "WOW..! ! YEH..! ! Haven’t played that in 30 yrs..! ! >" >Everyone ‘knew’ the tune, and we *winged* an arrangement on the spot… >sometimes luck, the vibe, ones chops, the planets, all line up and ya >can’t play a wrong note… right..?? :-) >I did a one minute *intro* that started out nowhere NEAR the tune, and >brought it right down into the ‘groove’… the drummer ‘heard it coming’ >and did a killer lead-in that led the whole band right down the line into >the tune. Over half the audience (lots of musicians) had either never >heard the tune, or hadn’t heard it in years… >Anyway… there are lots of guys out there who can REALLY play.. and >sing.. and they are getting to where they ‘have more time’… >I’m optomistic that the live music *scene* may find a resurgance over the >next ten years… now if some of the clubs would try and be a bit clever >and cater to *fans* and musicians it might start ’sooner rather than >later’…. >Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New Riders >of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), Larry >Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and the >Drivers…
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On the CD Changer Johnny Winter-And, Spirit-The Family that Plays Together, Free-Walkin my Shadow, Andrew Gold – All This and Heaven Too, Bonnie Raitt – Road Tested
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Spirit – right on. > Jeez, I dodn’t think anybody outside of San Francisco knew of Lydia > Pense/Cold Blood. > Cold Blood, T of P and Ten Wheel Drive were my favorite brass bands > The "Goin’ Down" I remember is Jeff Beck’s version. > I just looked at some LP history… West, Bruce, and Laing… "Goin down" > doesn’t show up on any of their LPs (???). BUT, I saw them in the 70s > (Boulder, CO.) and they played it. The tape I have of the tune is from > that era, but it is ‘unlabeled’ and I have no idea where/how I got it. > The thing I remember, was being very disapointed with WB&L… but that > "Goin Down" was worth the ticket in… it’s the ONLY tune I remember from > that show. I don’t think Jack Bruce *fit* in that ensemble… just my > recolection. > I REALLY miss big rock/funk horn bands… I was IN one for a number of > years… > Someday, I hope to start/join another… > I’d make the line-up > Bass > Drums > Congas > B3 > Two Guitars (or three) > Two Trumpets > Two Sax’s > One Trombone > And if it works… maybe… just MAYBE… > … a chick singer…! ! ! ! > HA..! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > Good Stuff – all of it. > Cool deal to be on the stage with a real player. I hope for the same some > day. >>>>When’s the last time you heard Starcastle, Camel, or >>>>Simply Saucer? Mmmmmm tasty. >>>I had camel’s LP, but have bnot heard of starcstle or simply suacer? >>>Greg >>Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? >>As in "trouble finding players"… >>Hang in there… they are out there. And there is SO much great ‘old’ >>music to play *again*. >>Story… about 5 yrs ago, I was doing a gig, an open jam… with a >>’throw together’ band… guys from different bands. It was a regular gig >>and we’d been doing this gig for months. One night, in the middle of a >>tune in the opening set, a guy walks in the club… every guy in the >>band (other than me) instantly recognizes him, and obviously supprised >>and delighted to see him. Since I’m not origianlly *from* the area, I >>didn’t know him. >>Now, I *NEVER* do this… but, from the reaction of the rest of the >>guys… I motion the guy over, and while he obviously thought I wanted to >>talk to him, I handed him my guitar. I don’t remember the tune we were >>in the middle of, but without missing a beat, he ripped into it. What a >>great player…! ! ! >>The tune ended, everyone was shaking his hand, they mulled over a what >>tune to do for about 5 seconds… then launched into a four song Bowie >>set that was absolutely KILLER…! ! ! >>Turned out, this guy was a *player/singer* from ‘back in the day’… >>nobody had seen him play for 15+ yrs… and ‘out of the blue’ he >>appeared, stepped up and it was like he’d been gigging right on through >>the last decade. >>After a break, we got up and did a couple tunes, and brought him back >>up… he new every tune we called, was a GREAT ensemble player, and has >>the BEST vocal vibrato of anyone I’ve ever been onstage with… amazing.. >>Anyway, he’d quit the music biz, had a family, worked a reg job for 20 >>yrs and with the kids *grown* one night decided to get come out and play. >>Now, like a lot of us, he’s a part time player… and a GREAT one at >>that. >>A few months later, he snuck his two sons (not 18) into the back of the >>club for 30 minutes to hear him do a set… they both play guitar but had >>never heard ‘the old man’ in a band. They were looking at each other with >>that "holy-shit-we-never-imagined" look… and they certainly got a >>new-found respect for their fathers musical *advice*. >>Somewhere there is a recording from that night… and on it is a >>rendition of "goin’ down" that people STILL talk about. I’d heard the >>tune on an old tape of mine that afternoon (West,Bruce, and Lang???) and >>called it that night. Everyone went "WOW..! ! YEH..! ! Haven’t played >>that in 30 yrs..! ! " >>Everyone ‘knew’ the tune, and we *winged* an arrangement on the spot… >>sometimes luck, the vibe, ones chops, the planets, all line up and ya >>can’t play a wrong note… right..?? :-) >>I did a one minute *intro* that started out nowhere NEAR the tune, and >>brought it right down into the ‘groove’… the drummer ‘heard it coming’ >>and did a killer lead-in that led the whole band right down the line into >>the tune. Over half the audience (lots of musicians) had either never >>heard the tune, or hadn’t heard it in years… >>Anyway… there are lots of guys out there who can REALLY play.. and >>sing.. and they are getting to where they ‘have more time’… >>I’m optomistic that the live music *scene* may find a resurgance over the >>next ten years… now if some of the clubs would try and be a bit clever >>and cater to *fans* and musicians it might start ’sooner rather than >>later’…. >>Recently on my stereo… Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sprit, New >>Riders of the Purple Sage, Cold Blood, Tower of Power (What is Hip.??), >>Larry Carlton Live, The Crusaders Live (with Carlton), Jimmy Thackery and >>the Drivers…
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Great story! I may have recounted this story before… Playing in a bar as a sub for the local band Rhythm Pigs, which at that time featured one of the founding members of Molly Hatchet. They had a better paying gig a couple of hours away and somehow we got to sub for them at this biker-type bar. I’d never met them and they had never heard us play, but the other guitarist befriended them and thus we got to sub. Half way through the gig in come these guys with long hair; biker types. They pull up at a table a few feet away from us. They seemed a little too interested in us; like they had come in just to see us. We launched into our rendition of Whiskey Man with me playing lead. Only later did I find out that the Pigs’ gig was cancelled and they came in to see what we made of and just who they had let sub for them. Seated not 5 feet from me was Dave Hlubek, who wrote Whiskey Man and played guitar on it. I’m glad I didn’t know it at the time! >Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? >As in "trouble finding players"…
SE Virginia… I can find players, but not without playing a lot of Jimmy Buffet, Brown-eyed Girl, etc. Nobody my age seems interested in playing Budgie, Hatchet, etc *or* so I thought this AM. Later this AM, I visited a local site and lo and behold, there was a 4 piece band looking for a lead guitarist to play southern rock and classic rock with folks I knoew. I’ve since found that they have found the lead player they were looking for. Greg
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Great story! > I may have recounted this story before… > Playing in a bar as a sub for the local band Rhythm Pigs, which at that > time featured one of the founding members of Molly Hatchet. They had a > better paying gig a couple of hours away and somehow we got to sub for > them at this biker-type bar. I’d never met them and they had never > heard us play, but the other guitarist befriended them and thus we got > to sub. > Half way through the gig in come these guys with long hair; biker > types. They pull up at a table a few feet away from us. They seemed a > little too interested in us; like they had come in just to see us. > We launched into our rendition of Whiskey Man with me playing lead. > Only later did I find out that the Pigs’ gig was cancelled and they > came in to see what we made of and just who they had let sub for them. > Seated not 5 feet from me was Dave Hlubek, who wrote Whiskey Man and > played guitar on it. > I’m glad I didn’t know it at the time!
Damn..! ! ! ! That’s scary..! ! ! Great story..! ! ! Something similar happened to a friend of mine, fortunately, he didn’t play any of the guys songs though… Justin Hayward sat down in front of him and after the set invited him to join him for some beers. Stayed the whole show. >Just curious, what part of the country (no pun there) are you in..?? >As in "trouble finding players"… > SE Virginia… I can find players, but not without playing a lot of > Jimmy Buffet, Brown-eyed Girl, etc.
Yeh… sadly, there are a lot of bands/players *stuck* in those top 40 ‘oldies’ and ‘classic rock’ soft-rock tunes… Even MORE sadly, I *like* those songs, but they’ve been PLAYED TO DEATH and are ‘ruined’, so to speak. One band I know (and used to sit in with all the time) plays classic rock, but lots of stuff nobody else plays, and for comic relief they’ll throw in "Up Against the Wall You Red Neck Mother" or "Don’t Rock The Jukebox"… no need to do ‘Brown Eyed Girl’ anymore. Better still… there are plenty of OTHER Van Morrison tunes to play… > Nobody my age seems interested in playing Budgie, Hatchet, etc *or* so > I thought this AM. Later this AM, I visited a local site and lo and > behold, there was a 4 piece band looking for a lead guitarist to play > southern rock and classic rock with folks I knoew. I’ve since found > that they have found the lead player they were looking for.
Dang.. ! ! Stay in touch with them… maybe they’ll let you ’sit in’ and someone will hear you and ask you to join them… etc..etc… or, sometimes a player ‘won’t work out’ after a few months… ya never know. Good luck..! ! ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Greg
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> Nope. > But, I AM from that *era*… :-) > How many remember "The Santana Blues Band"..???
I did grow up in the Bay Area and I remember The Santana Blues Band. Montrose played at MY High School, and I was at Winterland for their first show playing for Bill Graham. I remember the Marc Ford Blues Band featuring Robben Ford. I remember Fritz featuring Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks. I remember the GolliWogs featuring John Fogerty. I remember KSJO’s anniversary party at Winterland featuring Sammy’s All-Stars that was a mass jam of Montrose. Journey, Steve Miller Band, and Santana! What a night that was..;0)
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> On the CD Changer > Johnny Winter-And, Spirit-The Family that Plays Together, Free-Walkin my > Shadow, Andrew Gold – All This and Heaven Too, Bonnie Raitt – Road Tested
Wow early Spirit! Fresh Garbage was too cool. I met Andrew Gold at Norm’s Rare Guitars in LA a few months ago. Boy has he gained weight! I remember Peter Frampton when he was ROCKIN’ and playing the Bay Area every 3 months or so, including being at Winterland when Frampton Alive was recorded. What a time that was!
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dontcha miss those days? I know i sure do. I would dearly love to be able to take my daughter (13 yr old budding classic music freak) to see some of this stuff. I got tired of her thinking Christina Aguilera was god, and so introduced her to Aretha, Gladys Knight Patti Labelle and motown generally. Took her to see Kiss and Alice Cooper just so she would know what A big arena rock show is supposed to look like. Don’t you wish you could bottle up your experiences of this nature and pass ‘em on? Ps: i used to bring her to band practices when she was young and so she thinks having people like us (musicians) everywhere is nomal…. poor kid…LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I remember Peter Frampton when he was ROCKIN’ and playing the Bay Area every > 3 months or so, including being at Winterland when Frampton Alive was > recorded. What a time that was!
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I passed on a guitar from Andrew a while back. Regret it now. Most versitile musician I ever heard. Got to see the original Spirit lineup once and two California/Cassidy incarnations. We all know the legends surrounding Randy and Jimi. I would have killd for his tone on that album. Last concert I saw at Winterland (yes, I was a local) was Abert or Freddie (I can’t remember) King, then Lee Michaels, with the Allman Brothers headlining. People who remember Frampton forget when he played with balls. I think he was tech advisor on the movie "Almost Famous" Ahh, back in the day.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On the CD Changer > Johnny Winter-And, Spirit-The Family that Plays Together, Free-Walkin my > Shadow, Andrew Gold – All This and Heaven Too, Bonnie Raitt – Road Tested > Wow early Spirit! Fresh Garbage was too cool. > I met Andrew Gold at Norm’s Rare Guitars in LA a few months ago. Boy has > he gained weight! > I remember Peter Frampton when he was ROCKIN’ and playing the Bay Area > every 3 months or so, including being at Winterland when Frampton Alive > was recorded. What a time that was!
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> People who remember Frampton forget when he played with balls.
I remember seeing Frampton open for John Mayall at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, and Peter ROCKED the house! When Mayall came on, most everyone left…